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Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-ula-usage-recommendations - work or abandon?

Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> Sat, 14 November 2015 12:05 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-ula-usage-recommendations - work or abandon?
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> On Nov 14, 2015, at 03:05 , Philip Homburg <pch-v6ops-3@u-1.phicoh.com> wrote:
> 
> In your letter dated Sat, 14 Nov 2015 06:52:08 +0100 (CET) you wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015, Nick Hilliard wrote:
>> 
>>> On 13/11/2015 13:50, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
>>>> If the Internet will have 10x the number of routes it has today in the
>>>> not-so-distant-future, there is a considerable risk that most smaller
>>>> players won't be able to afford to have a full view.
>>> 
>>> the dfz is growing linearly at ~50k prefixes/year.  On this basis, 10x the
>>> number of prefixes is a very long way away.
>> 
>> And you think this is going to continue in the future if we say "PI is the 
>> preferred way to multihome and please RIRs, make it as easy as possible 
>> for people to do this" ?
> 
> PI space is EUR 50 per year in the RIPE region, isn't it? Doesn't sound like
> a barrier to obtaining some.
> 
> Of course, having PI space is useless if your ISP doesn't want to announce
> it for you.

HE will announce anyone’s PI /48 for free on request if they have an ASN.

Owen

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