Re: [v6ops] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-03

Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net> Wed, 04 October 2017 13:36 UTC

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From: Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net>
To: Joe Touch <touch@strayalpha.com>, "Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)" <gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com>, "opsec@ietf.org" <opsec@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-03
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Hi Joe,

Good to hear from you again! It’s been a while.

I have to disagree with your first statement. The document really is intended to be operational advice and nothing more. I know that because that really was our intent when we wrote the paragraph.

However, I suspect that you objections are much deeper and probably require a wider bandwidth conversation. Let’s chat later this week.

                                                                           Ron
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From: Joe Touch [mailto:touch@strayalpha.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 4, 2017 9:12 AM
To: Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) <gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com>om>; opsec@ietf.org
Cc: v6ops@ietf.org; draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [v6ops] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-03




On 9/29/2017 1:12 AM, Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) wrote:
This is to open a two week WGLC for https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-03<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tools.ietf.org_html_draft-2Dietf-2Dopsec-2Dipv6-2Deh-2Dfiltering-2D03&d=DwMDaQ&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=Fch9FQ82sir-BoLx84hKuKwl-AWF2EfpHcAwrDThKP8&m=w6ehR6tEWxWsAi6UqKPaO2-vlDr5WraZcRu4dMv8o90&s=FbWJlslQstgnVnyNGdY5995KFRwCx4RDtIBQPrOAdj8&e=>FRwCx4RDtIBQPrOAdj8&e=>.

I do not agree with the claims of this document. It "informationally" advises against support for key IPv6 capabilities and undermines the extensibility of IPv6 by making recommendations about discarding currently unassigned codepoints.

This is an overstep for an OPS group, IMO.

Additionally, it refers to RFC2119 without taking care to capitalize those keywords where used or to provide specific examples where recommendations contradict existing Internet standards or are not definitive (e.g., SHOULDs).

I don't think this document is ready in any way.

Joe