Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-reducing-ra-energy-consumption WGLC
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-reducing-ra-energy-consumption WGLC
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Le 27/08/2015 17:54, Alejandro Acosta a écrit : > Hello Andrew, Inline: > > El 8/27/2015 a las 11:01 AM, Andrew 👽 Yourtchenko escribió: >> Hello Alejandro, >> >> On 8/27/15, Alejandro Acosta <alejandroacostaalamo@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> Hello, I fully support this draft, in fact, I believe that all >>> draft should have a mandatory "Eco-friendly" section. >>> >>> My comments: >>> >>> In section 3 - Consequences >>> >>> >>> o Some hosts simply experience bad battery life on these >>> networks and otherwise operate normally. This is frustrating for >>> users of these networks. >>> >>> >>> The sentence: "This is frustrating for users of these >>> networks." does not convince me. The impact of a bad battery life >>> is quite big, to say it's just "frustrating" IMHO is not enough. >>> I think it should be remove or create a stronger sentence. >> If Lorenzo agrees, I'd opt for removing the sentence about the >> frustrated users. > > Perfect > >> >>> >>> In section 4.2: >>> >>> >>> 2. Networks that serve large numbers (tens or hundreds) of >>> battery- powered devices SHOULD enable this behaviour. >>> >>> >>> This might be a dummy question but I wonder if this is automatic >>> or something that will be adjusted by the administrator (or >>> both). Probably we could be more specific in this section, I >>> mean, just to be more clear. >> Yeah, looks like this text needs tweaking - both you and Ray has >> commented on it, copypasting from my reply to him, so to check >> with you: >> >> How about a small tweak as below: >> >> "2) Administrators of networks that serve large numbers (tens or >> hundreds) of battery- powered devices SHOULD enable this >> behaviour." > > It sounds ok to me. In the future (and not that far away) another > draft could be written about making routers smarter.., The link-layers should be smarter, not the Routers. The link-layers should have link-layer messages about expressing interest in joining link-layer multicast groups (have mssages, not just API primitives). Alex I mean, they can recognize the number of > devices in the network (in your example tens or hundreds) and change > the behavior automatically to your draft. It looks feasible to me. > > Regards, > > >> >> --a >> >> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Alejandro, >>> >>> El 8/27/2015 a las 8:43 AM, Ray Hunter (v6ops) escribió: >>>> >>>> fred@cisco.com wrote: >>>>> This is to initiate a two week working group last call of >>>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-v6ops-reducing-ra-energy-consumption. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Please read it now. If you find nits (spelling errors, minor suggested >>>>> wording changes, etc), comment to the authors; if you find >>>>> greater issues, such as disagreeing with a statement or >>>>> finding additional issues that need to be addressed, please >>>>> post your comments to the list. >>>>> >>>>> We are looking specifically for comments on the importance of >>>>> the document as well as its content. If you have read the >>>>> document and believe it to be of operational utility, that is >>>>> also an important comment to make. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I have read this draft. I understand the motivation, it is >>>> clearly written, and I support it. >>>> >>>> Minor Suggestions: >>>> >>>> I'd reference 4861 in the first sentence of the intro. >>>> s/Routing information is communicated to IPv6 hosts by Router >>>> Advertisement messages. /Routing information is communicated to >>>> IPv6 hosts by Router Advertisement messages [RFC4861]/ >>>> >>>> Recommendation 2 is redundant IMHO. THere's no way a router >>>> manufacturer can really know if the devices it is serving are >>>> battery powered devices or not (perhaps the subject of another >>>> draft e.g. perhaps extension to 4620 to discover this via NI on >>>> creating a new ND cache entry?) >>>> >>>> For recommendation 3: the timing recommendations should be >>>> more concrete, provided rough consensus can be achieved. In >>>> order to maximize the benefit I'd suggest specifying the upper >>>> end of the suggested ranges. >>>> >>>> s/Networks that serve battery-powered devices /Routers with >>>> network interfaces that are known to serve battery-powered >>>> devices/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- regards, RayH >>>> <https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=siglink&utm_campaign=reach> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> v6ops mailing list v6ops@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops >>> > > _______________________________________________ v6ops mailing list > v6ops@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops >
- [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-reducing-ra-energy-consu… fred
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-reducing-ra-energy-c… 神明達哉
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-reducing-ra-energy-c… Ray Hunter (v6ops)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-reducing-ra-energy-c… Alejandro Acosta
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-reducing-ra-energy-c… Andrew 👽 Yourtchenko
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-reducing-ra-energy-c… Andrew 👽 Yourtchenko
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-reducing-ra-energy-c… Andrew Yourtchenko
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-reducing-ra-energy-c… Alejandro Acosta
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-reducing-ra-energy-c… Ray Hunter (v6ops)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-reducing-ra-energy-c… Andrew 👽 Yourtchenko
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-reducing-ra-energy-c… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-reducing-ra-energy-c… Nabil Benamar
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-reducing-ra-energy-c… Andrew 👽 Yourtchenko
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-reducing-ra-energy-c… Nabil Benamar
- [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-reducing-ra-energy-consu… fred
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-reducing-ra-energy-c… David Farmer
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-reducing-ra-energy-c… David Farmer
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-reducing-ra-energy-c… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-reducing-ra-energy-c… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-reducing-ra-energy-c… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-reducing-ra-energy-c… Nabil Benamar
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-reducing-ra-energy-c… Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-reducing-ra-energy-c… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-reducing-ra-energy-c… David Farmer