Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion
Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> Fri, 05 September 2014 00:46 UTC
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion
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> On Sep 4, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Fred Baker (fred) <fred@cisco.com> wrote: > > > On Sep 5, 2014, at 9:33 AM, Fernando Gont <fernando@gont.com.ar> wrote: > >> What happens when/if such lins employ v6 (whether they really offer a >> "virtual" MTU >=1280).. I just don't know. > > 802.15.4? I really want to drag anyone who thinks breaking p-mtu by their improper understanding of standards to do tech support for grandmas impacted by their issues. The big problems we have is IETF wrote down 1280 when most links were already 1500 to be ‘safe’ and allowed this broken behavior to drive average packet sizes down. I have equipment from vendors that can’t do average packet sizes lower than 330 bytes, so I really need that higher end packet size to bring the average up as a result. We need to make P-MTU mandatory and not enable those who build broken networks any more. - Jared
- [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Joe Touch
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Andrew 👽 Yourtchenko
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Andrew 👽 Yourtchenko
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Ray Hunter
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Matthew Petach
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Ray Hunter
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Tom Perrine
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Tom Perrine
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Joe Touch
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Jared Mauch
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Jared Mauch
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Ray Hunter
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Joe Touch
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Joe Touch
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Mark Andrews
- Re: [v6ops] PMTUD issue discussion Templin, Fred L