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Re: [v6ops] Happy eyeballs suggestions, was: Re: Apple and IPv6, a few clarifications

Ross Chandler <ross@eircom.net> Wed, 24 June 2015 12:52 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Happy eyeballs suggestions, was: Re: Apple and IPv6, a few clarifications
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> On 22 Jun 2015, at 23:58, Ca By <cb.list6@gmail.com> wrote:
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> For some subset of networks, devs can test the real production deal if apple could surface the apn setting in dev builds. It is hard to see the harm in this. Other OSs allow apn setting fiddling. Also, this allows an escape hatch for the inevitable user who cannot deal with ipv6-only in production... And opens the door for end user opt in trials of ipv6. 
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> It's really not a hard problem to solve for many situations (like tmus)  but the some backwards place .... They may not have this luxury of proper ipv6 in mobile :/
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> CB 

+1

At lot of people that could help with IPv6-only deployment lose interest when they hear that they have to have an Android or Windows Phone to try it.

Ross

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