Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profile last call

Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com> Mon, 23 February 2015 14:06 UTC

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From: Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 23:05:59 +0900
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profile last call
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On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 11:01 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
wrote:

> Actually the behaviour depends on the release. Release 8 says the MS "MAY
>> request another PDP context for the other PDP type".
>>
>> In any case, I think we agree that this is not something that we want to
>> recommend?
>>
>
> I don't agree. I agree with the above description of the CC52 code, and I
> definitely want (and expect) the UE to set up a second PDP context in case
> it gets CC52.


Then you should read TS 23.060 release 8, which says "may".


> How else should the network signal to the UE that it should bring up a
> second PDP context?


Why would you ever want to do this? It has terrible scaling properties and
no fate sharing.