Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-transition-comparison-04.txt

[Gábor LENCSE <[e-mail]>]

Dear Med,

Will you be satisfied if we cite a few cases for each technology, when 
the implementations do support direct communication?

I mean doing it just here, on this list. I think we should not include 
the vendor specific information into the draft. It would be unfair 
against those, about whom we do not know it.

However, showing examples justifies that the statements are objective.

Best regards,

Gábor



5/24/2022 9:22 AM keltezéssel, [e-mail] írta:
> Re-,
>
> I'm afraid this is not appropriate in an RFC.
>
> This document is not about certifying implems. Relying on some web search and then extrapolate to draw generic conclusion for a given technology is really weird.
>
> I hope that subjective text can be removed.
>
> Cheers,
> Med
>
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : v6ops <[e-mail]> De la part de JORDI PALET
>> MARTINEZ
>> Envoyé : mardi 24 mai 2022 09:08
>> À : [e-mail]
>> Objet : Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-transition-
>> comparison-04.txt
>>
>> Hi Med,
>>
>> As previously explained, we drafted that text, considering the
>> docuemnts that we have been able to find from different vendors.
>>
>> We believe this text ensures that the reader of the document will
>> double-check with the possible vendors/products, what is the
>> support for hair-pinning they offer, so to be able to make a
>> better decision.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jordi
>> @jordipalet
>>
>>
>>
>> El 24/5/22, 8:06, "[e-mail] en nombre de
>> [e-mail]" <[e-mail] en nombre de
>> [e-mail]> escribió:
>>
>>      Hi Jordi, Gabor, all,
>>
>>      Thank you for taking into account the various comments.
>>
>>      However, I see that the wording:
>>
>>      "Often NAT64 vendors support direct communication .."
>>
>>      and
>>
>>      "Some AFTR vendors support direct .."
>>
>>      made it to the public version while there is no evidence to
>> back these claims.
>>
>>      I'm uncomfortable to include such claims in the draft and,
>> thus, reiterate the suggestion to be factual: include what a
>> technology is designed to provide no what some specific implems
>> are doing.
>>
>>      Thank you.
>>
>>      Cheers,
>>      Med
>>
>>      > -----Message d'origine-----
>>      > De : I-D-Announce <[e-mail]> De la part
>> de
>>      > [e-mail]
>>      > Envoyé : lundi 23 mai 2022 21:51
>>      > À : [e-mail]
>>      > Cc : [e-mail]
>>      > Objet : I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-transition-comparison-
>> 04.txt
>>      >
>>      >
>>      > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-
>> Drafts
>>      > directories.
>>      > This draft is a work item of the IPv6 Operations WG of the
>> IETF.
>>      >
>>      >         Title           : Pros and Cons of IPv6 Transition
>>      > Technologies for IPv4aaS
>>      >         Authors         : Gabor Lencse
>>      >                           Jordi Palet Martinez
>>      >                           Lee Howard
>>      >                           Richard Patterson
>>      >                           Ian Farrer
>>      > 	Filename        : draft-ietf-v6ops-transition-
>> comparison-
>>      > 04.txt
>>      > 	Pages           : 35
>>      > 	Date            : 2022-05-23
>>      >
>>      > Abstract:
>>      >    Several IPv6 transition technologies have been developed
>> to
>>      > provide
>>      >    customers with IPv4-as-a-Service (IPv4aaS) for ISPs with
>> an
>>      > IPv6-only
>>      >    access and/or core network.  All these technologies have
>> their
>>      >    advantages and disadvantages, and depending on existing
>>      > topology,
>>      >    skills, strategy and other preferences, one of these
>>      > technologies may
>>      >    be the most appropriate solution for a network operator.
>>      >
>>      >    This document examines the five most prominent IPv4aaS
>>      > technologies
>>      >    considering a number of different aspects to provide
>> network
>>      >    operators with an easy-to-use reference to assist in
>> selecting
>>      > the
>>      >    technology that best suits their needs.
>>      >
>>      >
>>      > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>>      > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-
>> transition-
>>      > comparison/
>>      >
>>      > There is also an htmlized version available at:
>>      > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-v6ops-
>> transition-
>>      > comparison-04
>>      >
>>      > A diff from the previous version is available at:
>>      > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-v6ops-
>> transition-
>>      > comparison-04
>>      >
>>      >
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