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Re: [v6ops] Are we competitive?

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Thu, 28 July 2022 20:55 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Are we competitive?
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On 28-Jul-22 20:25, shogunx@sleekfreak.ath.cx wrote:
> Bell Labs gave UNIX to universities to make sure that they had a
> forthcoming generation of engineers that they could hire.  Are we properly
> supporting IPv6 education in universities, so that the next generation
> does not require a full time technical specialist to deploy and/or
> maintain a v6 or dual stack network?

I can't answer that question globally for today, but a few years ago when
I retired from teaching networking at a university, the answer was "no".
The textbooks mainly introduced IPv6 as an afterthought and some of them
had serious misunderstandings or were based on obsolete RFCs. But more
important, students are motivated by the job market and therefore want to
learn about what is *currently* used in the market.

So there is a chicken and egg problem here. However, a few textbooks that
lead with IPv6 and treat IPv4 as an afterthought would be a good start.
(I haven't reviewed the available books recently.)

    Brian

> 
> On Thu, 28 Jul 2022, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> 
>> Following the ongoing discussion about "IPv6-only" and why sites are still
>> IPv4-only, I have a question: Are we competitive?
>>
>> Of course, we MUST NOT talk about pricing at the IETF, but it isn't hard to
>> find the monthly costs of, say, an IPv4 /20, and it's a great deal less than
>> the cost of one full time technical specialist. Can we make it so easy for a
>> site to switch to IPv6 usage that it's cheaper than that, considering all
>> kinds of OPEX?
>>
>> Regards
>>    Brian
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