Re: [v6ops] Roman Danyliw's No Objection on draft-ietf-v6ops-nat64-deployment-07: (with COMMENT)

[Jordi Palet Martínez <[e-mail]>]

Hi Med,

Thanks a lot! that's a very good "middle point" reference. It is only about US, I will try to see if there is a similar one that shows also other regions.

Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
 

El 11/7/19 9:05, "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]> escribió:

    Hi Jordi, all,
    
    One comment below.
    
    Cheers,
    Med
    
    > -----Message d'origine-----
    > De : v6ops [mailto:[e-mail]] De la part de Jordi Palet
    > Martínez
    > Envoyé : jeudi 11 juillet 2019 08:41
    > À : Roman Danyliw; The IESG
    > Cc : [e-mail]; [e-mail]; v6ops-
    > [e-mail]
    > Objet : Re: [v6ops] Roman Danyliw's No Objection on draft-ietf-v6ops-
    > nat64-deployment-07: (with COMMENT)
    > 
    > Hi Roman,
    > 
    > Thanks a lot for your inputs.
    > 
    > See below, in-line.
    > 
    > Regards,
    > Jordi
    > @jordipalet
    > 
    > 
    > El 11/7/19 2:44, "Roman Danyliw via Datatracker" <[e-mail]>
    > escribió:
    > 
    >     Roman Danyliw has entered the following ballot position for
    >     draft-ietf-v6ops-nat64-deployment-07: No Objection
    > 
    >     When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all
    >     email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut
    > this
    >     introductory paragraph, however.)
    > 
    > 
    >     Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-
    > criteria.html
    >     for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions.
    > 
    > 
    >     The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
    >     https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-nat64-deployment/
    > 
    > 
    > 
    >     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    >     COMMENT:
    >     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    > 
    >     (1) Section 5.  Is there an informative reference that can be made
    > about the
    >     successful deployment on cellular networks?
    > 
    > Do you mean citing specific operators? I can name several in almost every
    > continent, but I'm not convinced this is correct in an IETF document ...
    > 
    
    [Med] No need to be exhaustive here, I suggest to add one single pointer: https://www.worldipv6launch.org/major-mobile-us-networks-pass-50-ipv6-threshold/. Having an informative reference is helpful for this kind of statements (because otherwise, this may be considered as speculative). 
    
    
    >     (2) Section 7.  Consider adding an explicit statement such as the
    > following
    >     after the intro sentence that “no new security considerations are
    > added”:
    > 
    >     As noted in the relevant sections above, the NAT64 and DNS64
    > technologies can
    >     impact the efficacy or functionality of key security (i.e., DNSSEC and
    > VPNs)
    >     and privacy preserving (i.e., DNS-over-TLS and DNS-over-HTTP)
    > technologies.
    > 
    > -> I will need to reword it. This is right in the reference to DNSSEC.
    > However VPNs and DNS privacy, the point is on the other way around (those
    > technologies can avoid the DNS64 performing correctly, and thus, break
    > NAT64).
    > 
    >     (3) Editorial Nits
    > 
    >     ** Section 1.  Editorial. s/today unrealistic/unrealistic today/
    > 
    >     ** Section 5.  Typo.  s/learn he/learn the/
    > 
    >     ** Section 5.  Editorial.  “Hundreds of millions of users” mentioned
    > twice.
    > 
    >     OLD:
    >     NAT64/464XLAT has demonstrated to be a valid choice in several
    > scenarios
    >     (IPv6-IPv4 and IPv4-IPv6-IPv4), with hundreds of millions of users,
    > being the
    >     predominant mechanism in the majority of the cellular networks (which
    > account
    >     for hundreds of millions of users).
    > 
    >     NEW:
    >     NAT64/464XLAT has demonstrated to be a valid choice in several
    > scenarios
    >     (IPv6-IPv4 and IPv4-IPv6-IPv4) in cellular networks which account for
    > hundreds
    >     of millions of users.
    > 
    > Noted and corrected all those nits in my internal version. I will wait a
    > couple of days before publishing it, in case there are any further inputs.
    > 
    > 
    



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