[v6ops] Who implements the DHCP service?

Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> Mon, 20 November 2017 01:27 UTC

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Subject: [v6ops] Who implements the DHCP service?
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One comment on the draft in question.

Looking at figure 1 (applies to all of the figures, but let me be specific for the purposes of a comment) I don't see any reason to believe that the node marked "Delegating Router" is in fact a router or is connected directly to the "Upstream Interface". AFAIK, given the relay capability present in RFC 3315, the common practice is to have a more central server respond to IA_NA and IA_PD requests, and simply have a router connected on the ISP link. That might get complex to draw in a figure, but I'd worry about any implicit assumption in the WG version of the document that only routers implemented the PD service.