Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transition solutions -- NAT64/DNS64 remains insufficient

Ted Lemon <Ted.Lemon@nominum.com> Thu, 26 March 2015 23:44 UTC

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To: James Woodyatt <jhw@nestlabs.com>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transition solutions -- NAT64/DNS64 remains insufficient
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On Mar 26, 2015, at 5:23 PM, James Woodyatt <jhw@nestlabs.com> wrote:
> If Apple caves on this, as every other major vendor of mobile device operating systems has already caved, then developers will continue to rely on the viability of IPv4 literals as a protocol element for the foreseeable future.

Just to be clear, am I correct in understanding that this is only an issue for IPv4 literals sent to from the IPv4-only service provider to the IPv6-only host?   It seems to me that there is no way to make it work in the other direction.

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Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Kossut Tomasz - Hurt
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Fred Baker (fred)
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Mikael Abrahamsson
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ray Hunter
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Tore Anderson
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Czerwonka Michał 1 - Hurt
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Xing Li
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ca By
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Alexandru Petrescu
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Lorenzo Colitti
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Lorenzo Colitti
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ca By
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Lorenzo Colitti
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… James Woodyatt
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Lorenzo Colitti
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ca By
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Brian E Carpenter
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… James Woodyatt
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Tore Anderson
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Czerwonka Michał 1 - Hurt
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Andrew 👽 Yourtchenko
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ca By
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Mark Andrews
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… James Woodyatt
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Metzler, Dan J
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Lorenzo Colitti
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Tore Anderson
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Bjoern A. Zeeb
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Erik Kline
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… James Woodyatt
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ross Chandler
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ted Lemon
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Xing Li
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Xing Li
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Fred Baker (fred)
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Keith Moore
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… James Woodyatt
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Keith Moore
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… George, Wes
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… George, Wes
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ca By
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… James Woodyatt
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… James Woodyatt
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Lorenzo Colitti
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Bjoern A. Zeeb
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ca By
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… James Woodyatt
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Bjoern A. Zeeb
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ca By
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ted Lemon
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… James Woodyatt
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Lorenzo Colitti
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ca By
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Howard, Lee
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Metzler, Dan J
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Xing Li
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Xing Li
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ross Chandler
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… James Woodyatt
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Xing Li
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Mark Andrews
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Xing Li
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ross Chandler
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… James Woodyatt
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Xing Li
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Xing Li
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Mark Andrews
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… James Woodyatt
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Erik Kline
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… James Woodyatt
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Tore Anderson
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… James Woodyatt
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Heatley, Nick
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Bjoern A. Zeeb
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Heatley, Nick
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Heatley, Nick
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ted Lemon
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Alexandru Petrescu
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ted Lemon
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… George, Wes
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ca By
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ted Lemon
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Lorenzo Colitti
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Bjoern A. Zeeb
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Lorenzo Colitti
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ca By
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… James Woodyatt
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ted Lemon
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Howard, Lee
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… James Woodyatt
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Mark Andrews
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ted Lemon
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… James Woodyatt
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ted Lemon
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Fred Baker (fred)
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ca By
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Fred Baker (fred)
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Lorenzo Colitti
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Metzler, Dan J
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Heatley, Nick
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Howard, Lee
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Bjoern A. Zeeb
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Gert Doering
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… George, Wes
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Gert Doering
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… James Woodyatt
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Metzler, Dan J
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Lorenzo Colitti
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Alexandru Petrescu
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Heatley, Nick
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ted Lemon
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Lorenzo Colitti
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ted Lemon
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ted Lemon
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… James Woodyatt