Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier

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We have developed numerous configuration tools that create/mod PE, RR configs. We also have lots of tools that speak to the network in a live sense to get health, stats ... All of the raw material is readily available. TBH I cannot speak to you about our solutions in anymore depth..

Jim Uttaro

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Subject: Re: [Idr] [v6ops] BGP Identifier

Tell me please the large provider that you know has his own automatic configuration tools. I would like to contact him to learn from him.


From: Randy Bush<>
Date: 2014-02-18 10:40
CC: fanpeng<>; 'idr wg'<>; 'V6 Ops List'<>; 'Robert Raszuk'<>
Subject: Re: [Idr] [v6ops] BGP Identifier
> Do you have such tools to config your network? Or do you know the
> vendor that provide such tools?Indeed, such programmatic generation
> tools are good for network plan. But the logic in the tools is
> complecated especially for a very large network with hierarchical
> operation as Peng Fan mentioned.

there are products in the space, but the large providers i know who
configure programatically developed their own.  there are not enough
large providers not suffering from 'not invented here' to make a
reasonable customer base for serious software development.

but it pays for itself, so smart folk who develop it.