Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier

"UTTARO, JAMES" <ju1738@att.com> Tue, 18 February 2014 11:27 UTC

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From: "UTTARO, JAMES" <ju1738@att.com>
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Thread-Topic: [Idr] [v6ops] BGP Identifier
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We have developed numerous configuration tools that create/mod PE, RR configs. We also have lots of tools that speak to the network in a live sense to get health, stats ... All of the raw material is readily available. TBH I cannot speak to you about our solutions in anymore depth..

Jim Uttaro

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To: Randy Bush
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Subject: Re: [Idr] [v6ops] BGP Identifier

Tell me please the large provider that you know has his own automatic configuration tools. I would like to contact him to learn from him.

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From: Randy Bush<mailto:randy@psg.com>
Date: 2014-02-18 10:40
To: lizhenqiang@chinamobile.com<mailto:lizhenqiang@chinamobile.com>
CC: fanpeng<mailto:fanpeng@chinamobile.com>; 'idr wg'<mailto:idr@ietf.org>; 'V6 Ops List'<mailto:v6ops@ietf.org>; 'Robert Raszuk'<mailto:robert@raszuk.net>
Subject: Re: [Idr] [v6ops] BGP Identifier
> Do you have such tools to config your network? Or do you know the
> vendor that provide such tools?Indeed, such programmatic generation
> tools are good for network plan. But the logic in the tools is
> complecated especially for a very large network with hierarchical
> operation as Peng Fan mentioned.

there are products in the space, but the large providers i know who
configure programatically developed their own.  there are not enough
large providers not suffering from 'not invented here' to make a
reasonable customer base for serious software development.

but it pays for itself, so smart folk who develop it.

randy