[v6ops] Re: [IPv6]Re: Is the P flag even necessary? M flag already does enough (Re: Re: A detail review of draft-ietf-6man-pio-pflag-04)
Timothy Winters <tim@qacafe.com> Tue, 06 August 2024 13:05 UTC
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Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2024 09:04:54 -0400
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Subject: [v6ops] Re: [IPv6]Re: Is the P flag even necessary? M flag already does enough (Re: Re: A detail review of draft-ietf-6man-pio-pflag-04)
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Hi Ted, On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 2:30 PM Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 11:16 AM Timothy Winters <tim@qacafe.com> wrote: > >> v6ops has a draft for PD on the LAN to improve this situation. >> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-lan-pd/ >> >> Please feel free to send comments, we are about to do WGLC on it. >> > > Hey, Tim. I hadn't read the document in a while. I see this text in the > last requirement: > > The IPv6 CE Router SHOULD by default provision IA_PD IA prefixes with a > prefix-length of 64. > > I read this as "if the DHCP client doesn't specify a narrower prefix, the > CE router SHOULD .. 64" > > Is that what you intended? If not, I think you need to say more. If that > is what you intended, this won't work, because if we stack CE routers, I > expect every CE router to ask for a /48, rather than not specifying, and > that would mean that we'd always delegate the narrowest remaining subset of > the outer CE router's delegation to the first inner router that makes a > request. > That's what the working group wanted. The original version of this document had more text about how to support hierarchical or flat models. After a round or two discussion what came out of that was routers behind a CE Router are no longer a CE Router as they aren't at the customer edge. The draft reflects that general consensus, that leans towards deploying a flat model as opposed to hierarchical, which is where the /64 length derives from. I think it may be time for another document to specify what to do if you're a Internal Router (but not SNAC). We could include all the flat model text for becoming a DHCP Relay and giving out IA_PD with /64 from the customer edge. > >
- [v6ops] Re: [IPv6]Re: Is the P flag even necessar… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: [IPv6]Re: Is the P flag even necessar… Michael Breuer
- [v6ops] Re: [IPv6]Re: Is the P flag even necessar… Daryll Swer
- [v6ops] Re: [IPv6]Re: Is the P flag even necessar… Timothy Winters
- [v6ops] Re: [IPv6]Re: Is the P flag even necessar… Michael Breuer
- [v6ops] Re: [IPv6]Re: Is the P flag even necessar… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: [IPv6]Re: Is the P flag even necessar… Timothy Winters
- [v6ops] Re: [IPv6]Re: Is the P flag even necessar… Timothy Winters
- [v6ops] Re: [IPv6]Re: Is the P flag even necessar… Daryll Swer
- [v6ops] Re: [IPv6]Re: Is the P flag even necessar… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: [IPv6]Re: Is the P flag even necessar… Daryll Swer
- [v6ops] Re: [IPv6]Re: Is the P flag even necessar… Philipp S. Tiesel
- [v6ops] Re: [IPv6]Re: Is the P flag even necessar… Daryll Swer
- [v6ops] Re: [IPv6]Re: Is the P flag even necessar… Timothy Winters
- [v6ops] Re: [IPv6]Re: Is the P flag even necessar… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: [IPv6]Re: Is the P flag even necessar… Daryll Swer
- [v6ops] Re: [IPv6]Re: Is the P flag even necessar… Timothy Winters
- [v6ops] Re: [IPv6]Re: Is the P flag even necessar… Ted Lemon