Re: [v6ops] BGP Identifier
Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> Sat, 15 February 2014 08:58 UTC
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From: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 17:55:49 +0900
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] BGP Identifier
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I use this funny thing called DNS. -- Phones are not computers and suck for email On February 15, 2014 12:58:53 PM GMT+09:00, Shane Amante <shane@castlepoint.net> wrote: >Hi, > >I'm not casting an opinion either way wrt this specific draft; however, >I do wish to make two points below. > >On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Sander Steffann <sander@steffann.nl> >wrote: >> Hi, >> >>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-fan-idr-ipv6-bgp-id >>>> "IPv6 BGP Identifier Capability for BGP-4", Peng Fan, Zhenqiang Li, >>>> 2014-02-12 >>> >>> please no. if you can not assign a unique four octet integer to >each >>> router in your network, then you have much bigger problems. and >adding >>> a capability and more complexity to try to patch over your inability >to >>> configure your routers will just compound your problems. >> >> I agree. It's a shame that the router-id looks like an IPv4 address >and IPv4 addresses are used to auto-configure it when the operator >doesn't explicitly set it. There are too many people that think that a >router-id is more than a 32-bit number and must be an IPv4 address, but >creating more complexity to avoid educating router operators isn't the >answer... > >I would take exception to a ROUTER_ID being just a 32-bit integer. >Specifically, when a ROUTER_ID is an IP address that allows an operator >to quickly perform diagnosis & troubleshooting using >ping/traceroute/etc. to identify the availability and location within >the topology of the router purporting to have said ROUTER_ID. > >The other question I would raise is, in a far-off future, if we ever >manage to get networks converted away from dual-stack and back to a >single AFI -- namely, IPv6 -- if ROUTER_ID's are only 32-bits and you >lose those capabilities mentioned above ... would you care? > >-shane
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