Re: [v6ops] [OPS-DIR] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-v6ops-slaac-renum-03

Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> Wed, 21 October 2020 19:33 UTC

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[ - many groups, for clutter ]

While balloting I realized that I'd forgotten to thank Juergen this OpsDir
review.

Thank you, Juergen (and authors) for the back and forth, and addressing the
comments - it's improved the quality of the document...

W

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 7:10 AM Juergen Schoenwaelder <
j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 07:33:09AM -0300, Fernando Gont wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > > I would probably simply remove text that talks about the general use
> > > of timers. It is not needed to understand the problem, I think it
> > > actually confuses the problem. For me, the prefix is soft-state that a
> > > box learned (like it learns a lot of other soft-state) and so you
> > > either go for 'reasonably short' lifetimes or you design mechanisms to
> > > detect and handle stale information gracefully.
> >
> > Fair enough. So, removing beginning of the section up to, and including
> the
> > sentence that says "For obvious reasons, the whole ...", then?
>
> Yes.
>
> /js
>
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