Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profile last call- "harmfully broad"?
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From: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com
To: Alexandru Petrescu <alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profile last call- "harmfully broad"?
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Re-, Please see inline. > -----Message d'origine----- > De : Alexandru Petrescu [mailto:alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com] > Envoyé : vendredi 20 février 2015 13:57 > À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN > Cc : v6ops@ietf.org > Objet : Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profile last call- > "harmfully broad"? > > Le 20/02/2015 13:39, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com a écrit : > > Hi Alex, > > > > It is obvious that CLAT has nothing to do with native IPv6 > > communications (i.e., communications between IPv6-enabled nodes over > > an IPv6-enabled network). > > > > The CLAT recommendation in the profile I-D starts with: "In order to > > ensure IPv4 service continuity in an IPv6-only deployment context," > > > > That's IMHO clear enough to avoid "others to think that IPv6 is > > possible only if CLAT is there.". > > YEs, I agree. That text is sufficient. Cool! Thank you. Cheers, Med > > As a side note, I would be doubtful naming an IPv6-only access network > something that uses IPv4 as well (464xlat, dns64). I would rather call > it a "mostly" IPv6 access network, with a little of IPv4 however. > > This is just a matter of terminology. > > Also, since we last discussed we went trying eliminate the IPv4 stack > from a linux kernel. That is not possible. So any 'pure' IPv6 machine > that would connect to an IPv6-only access network is just a speculation > at this point, years away from any deployment. > > Alex > > > > > Cheers, Med > > > >> -----Message d'origine----- De : v6ops > >> [mailto:v6ops-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Alexandru Petrescu > >> Envoyé : jeudi 19 février 2015 14:59 À : v6ops@ietf.org Objet : > >> Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profile last call- > >> "harmfully broad"? > >> > >> > >> Among those two (IPv6 and CLAT) one would certainly suggest IPv6 > >> implementation in the terminal, but CLAT should be a "MAY". One > >> wouldn't want others to think that IPv6 is possible only if CLAT > >> is there. > >> > >> Alex >
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… James Woodyatt
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… Keith Moore
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… James Woodyatt
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… Heatley, Nick
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… Ross Chandler
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… Heatley, Nick
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… Heatley, Nick
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… Heatley, Nick
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… Ca By
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… david.binet
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… Heatley, Nick
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… Dave Michaud
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… Dave Michaud
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… Lorenzo Colitti
- [v6ops] accountability vs responsibility [draft-i… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profil… Lorenzo Colitti