Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-taylor-v6ops-fragdrop
Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com> Thu, 01 November 2012 00:59 UTC
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From: Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 09:58:48 +0900
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To: Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-taylor-v6ops-fragdrop
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On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu> wrote: > However, you've answered the key issue - this is not about fragments, but > rather about two things: > > a) DPI > DPI cannot be done on packets with any options > so this either means operators need to ignore DPI > on such packets or drop them > I don't think we should use the term DPI, because we don't really have consensus on what it means. I suspect some would assert that just looking at layer 4 headers is not DPI and that it's only DPI if you look into layer 4 payloads as well. > There are certainly places where DPI is expected (e.g., by a government), > and so only DPI-capable packets are permitted, but this doesn't seem > tenable anywhere except at the boundaries of customer networks (otherwise > all encrypted traffic would be dropped all over the place, and that doesn't > appear to be happening) > ... and saying that looking at layer 4 headers is "DPI" will also lead to this kind of confusion.
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