Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transition solutions -- NAT64/DNS64 remains insufficient

["Bjoern A. Zeeb" <[e-mail]>]

> On 22 Apr 2015, at 08:55 , Heatley, Nick <[e-mail]> wrote:
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> In the event that there is only one OS ecosystem at the party that doesn’t support the IPv4-socket transition, what story will they tell?

Given the entire “WinXP is still alive and IPv6 story” the timeframe to put to this is at least half a decade to a decade from now.

I think when people here mean “OS” they often think in “mobile OS” but don’t say?


> If browsers redirected these fails to a page that said “IPv4 literal problem encountered - ring vendor A” then that would be fine by me. A foolish idea? Well, it boils down to take some ownership, and don’t penalise operators taking the lead! IPv6-only transport has to be the target, we all know this.)

See, the thing I like about this thread is, that everybody is trying to point their fingers to someone else in order to fix something elsewhere but not with themselves or where the &^%$#$%^&*() problem occurs.   Anyone saying “you cannot get rid of IPv4 literals” to the extend that it doesn’t bother anyone anymore is mislead.  You just have not tried hard enough (probably because you are distracted seeking solutions elsewhere).

If everyone complaining here, would work towards getting rid of them rather than discussing who’s problem it is to put a workaround in place, we’d probably be half-way done.  We have people crawling the web, people having users and test networks, people who seem to be able to write enough emails on the topic that they could even direct it to the right people.

I could even be more adventurous and say:  give them a 90 day notice, publish it (that’s the important part, so that yur users hear about it as well), and if they don’t get back to you that they’ll fix it (timely) break them.  Isn’t that what people do with major security bugs?  I’d be surprised if major shopping sites and news papers wouldn’t react, once their sales and page views go down by a few % over night, but you need to let them and their users know upfront.

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