[v6ops] Re: stale and abandoned WG drafts

[Timothy Winters <[e-mail]>]

I asked for adoption at the end of the presentation in Vancouver for (
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-winters-v6ops-rfc7084bis/) I did
neglect to send the request on the mailing list which has led to some of
this confusion.   The authors will put out a new version based on feedback
and I'll ask on the mailing list to help avoid confusion.

As Jordi mentioned, the older 7084bis (draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc7084-bis-04)
ended up becoming 8585.    The new 7084 references 8585 for transition
mechanisms.

~Tim

On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 9:56 AM Nick Buraglio <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> There is indeed another draft (
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-winters-v6ops-rfc7084bis/ ) which
> has not been called for adoption. There were some discussions back in late
> 2023 about splitting documents out with a -bis to 7084 (seen here
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/v6ops/5Af8W_vlQp74B3Hl9jAEaPdDtuE/
> ). I will reach out to Tim for further clarification and to refresh
> my memory.
>
> nb
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 8:00 AM [e-mail] <jordi.palet=
> [e-mail]> wrote:
>
>> Hi XiPeng,
>>
>> Yes, I’m aware of that … in fact I’m co-author of that document as well …
>> we are just waiting for the WG adoption, not sure if the call has been done
>> already?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jordi
>>
>> @jordipalet
>>
>>
>> > El 12 ago 2024, a las 14:27, Xipengxiao <xipengxiao=
>> [e-mail]> escribió:
>> >
>> > Hi Jordi,
>> >
>> > Sometime ago there was a discussion in the ML to update CPE
>> requirements.  Tim Winters and a few other people have some proposals.  If
>> there are important things in draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc7084-bis-04 that are not
>> covered in RFC8585, you can work with Tim et al to submit a draft.  This is
>> one of the WG milestones.  Thanks.
>> >
>> > XiPeng
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [e-mail] <jordi.palet=
>> [e-mail]>
>> > Sent: Monday, August 12, 2024 10:35 AM
>> > To: IPv6 Operations <[e-mail]>
>> > Subject: [v6ops] Re: stale and abandoned WG drafts
>> >
>> > Hi Nick,
>> >
>> >> draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc7084-bis-04
>> >
>> > Initially the WG accepted a new version of the RFC7084. However, right
>> before the LC, the WG changed their mind and then the work was done by mean
>> of an alternative path, with resulted in RFC8585.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Jordi
>> >
>> > @jordipalet
>> >
>> >
>> >> El 26 jul 2024, a las 21:09, Nick Buraglio <
>> [e-mail]> escribió:
>> >>
>> >> As mentioned in the 120 v6ops session, we are doing some housekeeping
>> >> and changing status on old documents. Document details are below, we
>> >> plan to move these to DEAD status. If folks would like to revive them
>> >> they can be updated and state changed.
>> >>
>> >> draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6rtr-reqs-04
>> >> Requirements for IPv6 Routers
>> >> 2018-05-26 Expired
>> >> WG Document
>> >>
>> >> draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc7084-bis-04
>> >> Basic Requirements for IPv6 Customer Edge Routers
>> >> 2017-06-12 Expired
>> >> WG Document
>> >>
>> >> draft-ietf-v6ops-design-choices-12
>> >> Routing-Related Design Choices for IPv6 Networks
>> >> 2016-11-13 Expired
>> >> WG Document : Informational
>> >> Fred Baker
>> >>
>> >> draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem-07
>> >> DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Problems on Address and DNS Configuration
>> >> 2016-08-17 Expired
>> >> WG Document : Informational
>> >> Fred Baker
>> >>
>> >> draft-ietf-v6ops-dc-ipv6-01
>> >> IPv6 Operational Guidelines for Datacenters
>> >> 2014-02-04 Expired
>> >> In WG Last Call
>> >> Fred Baker
>> >>
>> >> draft-ietf-v6ops-balanced-ipv6-security-01
>> >> Balanced Security for IPv6 Residential CPE
>> >> 2013-12-06 Expired
>> >> WG Document
>> >> Review: secdir Early
>> >>
>> >> draft-ietf-v6ops-monitor-ds-ipv6-00
>> >> Monitoring Dual Stack/IPv6-only Networks and Services
>> >> 2013-08-14 Expired
>> >> WG Document
>> >>
>> >> draft-ietf-v6ops-v4v6tran-framework-02
>> >> Framework for IP Version Transition Scenarios
>> >> 2011-07-26 Expired
>> >> WG Document : Informational Ron Bonica
>> >>
>> >> draft-ietf-v6ops-nat64-pb-statement-req-00
>> >> IPv4/IPv6 Coexistence and Transition: Requirements for solutions
>> >> 2008-05-13 Expired
>> >> WG Document
>> >>
>> >> draft-ietf-v6ops-campus-transition-01
>> >> IPv6 Campus Transition Scenario Description and Analysis
>> >> 2007-03-28 Expired
>> >> WG Document
>> >>
>> >> draft-ietf-v6ops-routing-guidelines-01
>> >> IPv6 Routing Policies Guidelines
>> >> 2007-02-27 Expired
>> >> WG Document
>> >>
>> >> draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-00
>> >> Survey of IPv4 Addresses in Currently Deployed IETF Standards
>> >> 2003-01-13 Expired
>> >> WG Document
>> >>
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