Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-rfc3316update
Hesham Soliman <hesham@elevatemobile.com> Fri, 21 September 2012 09:41 UTC
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-rfc3316update
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one more comment, I believe RFC 5555 is mentioned in LTE specs. It should be listed as a MAY IMO. Hesham -----Original Message----- From: Hesham Soliman <hesham@elevatemobile.com> Date: Friday, 21 September 2012 5:38 PM To: <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> Cc: IPv6 Ops WG <v6ops@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-rfc3316update >A few quick comments on the drat having gone through it quickly. > >1. Requirements 1 and 2 are sort of redundant in an IETF document. The >purpose od RFC 3316 was t specify IETF protocols that should be supported >by the cellular host. PDP context has nothing to do with IETF protocols >and functionally speaking it's outside of the IP stack. Therefore, I see >no reason for specifying this in an RFC. It's not harmful, but since it's >specified elsewhere, having such redundancy can lead to confusion if 3GPP >specs change for example. So it's best to remove them. > >2. Same goes for the PCO. out of scope. It's no different than the IP >stack "finding" these parameters in a file that come from "somewhere". > >3. Req 5, I suggest a MAY instead of a SHOULD. > >4. for req 6 and 7. Are we sure this is a SHOULD? Are we effectively >requiring these functions for all deployments? It seems like a big >mandate, who's pushing for this? Just need to see that we have consensus >on this. I think Req 8 has the right keyword "MAY" and the same should >apply to 6 and 7 IMO. > >5. REQ 9 and 10 are also too strong. This is a MAY by the definition of >keywords. It's an optimisation. > >6. REQ 18 repeats 3316, although the reference has changed, so it's >redundant. > >7. REQ 19 conflicts with REQ 5, MAY Vs SHOULD. If they're both MAY I'm ok >with that. > >8. REQ 21 is completely redundant because this behaviour is mentioned in >RFC 3314, 3316 and 3GPP specs. > >9. REQ 27: For 3GPP specs there are defined standards for discovering >their servers. Why would you list another mechanism not related to 3GPP? >The purpose of the draft is to address a specific deployment. General IETF >specs are available to all implementers and they can decide for themselves >what they want to implement on top of the base. > >10. I disagree with REQ 28. This is an experimental RFC. If someone does >it that's fine, but no need to mandate it here. > >11. REQ#29: "The cellular device MUST support Prefix Delegation > capabilities [RFC3633 <http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3633>]. >Particularly, it MUST behave as a > Requesting Router." > >=> Why? Where did this come from? I disagree with this requirement. It's >up to each implementation to decide that. At best, you could have a MAY >but it's completely redundant. And as a consequence, so is REQ 30. > > >12. REQ#31: The cellular device SHOULD support Customer Side Translator > (CLAT) [I-D.ietf-v6ops-464xlat ><http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-rfc3316up >d >ate-00#ref-I-D.ietf-v6ops-464xlat>]. > >=> Why? Why SHOULD? Again, at best a MAY. > >Thanks, >Hesham > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >v6ops mailing list >v6ops@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… Hesham Soliman
- [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-rfc3… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… GangChen
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… Hesham Soliman
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… Hesham Soliman
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… Hesham Soliman
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… GangChen
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… Hesham Soliman
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… jouni korhonen
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… Hesham Soliman
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… Hesham Soliman
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… Hesham Soliman
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… Hesham Soliman
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… Hesham Soliman
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… david.binet
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… david.binet
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… MAWATARI Masataka
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… jouni korhonen
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… Rajiv Asati (rajiva)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… jouni korhonen
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… Rajiv Asati (rajiva)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… Anupam Kapoor
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… david.binet
- Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-… mohamed.boucadair