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Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-ula-usage-recommendations - work or abandon?

Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com> Mon, 09 November 2015 01:18 UTC

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From: Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2015 10:18:32 +0900
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-ula-usage-recommendations - work or abandon?
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On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 4:53 AM, Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> wrote:

> > They still work fine on networks that
> > operate the way the Internet was originally designed with end-to-end
> > connectivity.
>
> not sure what you mean by "end-to-end" connectivity.
>
> But if you refer to the property where there is no filtering between the
> aforementioned two devices, I wonder how many of such networks are
> interconnected via the public Internet.
>

False dichotomy. Not all filtering causes equal damage to applications.

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