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Re: [v6ops] SLAAC renum: Problem Statement & Operational workarounds

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Thu, 31 October 2019 19:49 UTC

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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 15:49:24 -0400
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] SLAAC renum: Problem Statement & Operational workarounds
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On Oct 31, 2019, at 3:47 PM, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
> RA Guard could be default configured on switches with particular default “plug router in here” (uplink) ports, eliminating the need for an active administrator. This could be a useful specification in the HomeNet documents, perhaps.

This would be disastrous.   It pretty much makes permissionless networking impossible in exchange for solving a security problem no-one has.

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