[v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last call: draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-lan-pd
Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Thu, 08 August 2024 18:14 UTC
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From: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2024 14:13:34 -0400
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Subject: [v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last call: draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-lan-pd
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It's a bit challenging here. If we want to enable subdivisions longer than 64, I think we need actual protocol work, because /64 here is normative: the proposal won't work if some other number is substituted. That is to say, this really /is/ hard-coded into the deployment model, and I don't think there's a way for us not to do this. We have to choose a prefix length here. It can't be wider than /64 because that won't work in all cases. It can't be narrower than /64 because that doesn't accomplish our stated purpose. So the way to fix this if we at some point reach consensus that /64 isn't the right number is to update the document, not to try to soften the requirement in this document. On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 4:22 AM Tim Chown <Tim.Chown= 40jisc.ac.uk@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > Hi Tim, > > > > *From: *Timothy Winters <tim@qacafe.com> > *Date: *Wednesday, 7 August 2024 at 20:09 > *To: *Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk> > *Cc: *Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, Nick Buraglio < > buraglio@forwardingplane.net>, IPv6 Operations <v6ops@ietf.org> > *Subject: *Re: [v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last call: > draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-lan-pd > > Hi Tim, > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 7:24 AM Tim Chown <Tim.Chown= > 40jisc.ac.uk@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > *From: *Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> > *Date: *Tuesday, 6 August 2024 at 21:53 > *To: *Nick Buraglio <buraglio@forwardingplane.net>, IPv6 Operations < > v6ops@ietf.org> > *Subject: *[v6ops] Correction: Re: Working group Last call: > draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-lan-pd > > I support the draft going forward. > > I do have one comment on the scope of the document. I believe that it > should also cover use of PD for a locally assigned ULA prefix. Please don't > turn this into another endless ULA thread - but if the CE has assigned a > ULA prefix, and supports PD for a GUA prefix, it should also support PD for > the ULA prefix. > > > > This seems reasonable. > > > > Should /64 be hard coded in the document, or should it refer to a prefix > of the length required to support SLAAC as currently defined? > > I'm concerned this will cause confusion amongst the CE Router community if > I don't put an actual number. If you really want we can 64 is based on the > prefix length of SLAAC as currently defined. How strong do you feel about > this? > > > > Not strongly, but the WG has of late been trying not to unnecessarily hard > code the 64 into documents. If 64 is used, then a short statement as to why > would be good. > > > > The pd-per-device draft uses /64 in an example and says “Note that the prefix lengths used in the example are /64 because that is the prefix length currently supported by SLAAC and is not otherwise required by the proposed deployment model” and says a little more on /64 in section 8 which also refers to RFC 7084, and in section 11. The 64 isn’t “hard coded” in there, in that its use in the example is clearly explained. > > Minor nit – the “addresses” at the end of para 1 of the intro should > probably say “prefixes”. > > thanks, fixed in -03. > > > > Best wishes, > > Tim > > > > Tim > > > > (There are several grammatical nits in the Introduction. I'll send them to > the author off-list.) > > Regards > Brian Carpenter > > On 07-Aug-24 03:18, Nick Buraglio wrote: > > All, > > > > This message begins the working group last call for > draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-lan-pd. Please read the draft and send your comments > in response to this email. > > > > The draft can be found here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-lan-pd/ < > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-lan-pd/> > > > > nb > > > > _______________________________________________ > > v6ops mailing list -- v6ops@ietf.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to v6ops-leave@ietf.org > > _______________________________________________ > v6ops mailing list -- v6ops@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to v6ops-leave@ietf.org > > _______________________________________________ > v6ops mailing list -- v6ops@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to v6ops-leave@ietf.org > > _______________________________________________ > v6ops mailing list -- v6ops@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to v6ops-leave@ietf.org >
- [v6ops] Working group Last call: draft-ietf-v6ops… Nick Buraglio
- [v6ops] Re: Working group Last call: draft-ietf-v… Brian E Carpenter
- [v6ops] Correction: Re: Working group Last call: … Brian E Carpenter
- [v6ops] Re: Working group Last call: draft-ietf-v… Vasilenko Eduard
- [v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last ca… Tim Chown
- [v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last ca… Timothy Winters
- [v6ops] Re: Working group Last call: draft-ietf-v… Timothy Winters
- [v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last ca… Tim Chown
- [v6ops] Re: Working group Last call: draft-ietf-v… Vasilenko Eduard
- [v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last ca… Vasilenko Eduard
- [v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last ca… Timothy Winters
- [v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last ca… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last ca… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: Working group Last call: draft-ietf-v… Timothy Winters
- [v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last ca… Timothy Winters
- [v6ops] Re: Working group Last call: draft-ietf-v… Vasilenko Eduard
- [v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last ca… Jen Linkova
- [v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last ca… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: Working group Last call: draft-ietf-v… David Farmer
- [v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last ca… Timothy Winters
- [v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last ca… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: Working group Last call: draft-ietf-v… Timothy Winters
- [v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last ca… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: Correction: Re: Working group Last ca… Timothy Winters