Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Packets with Extension Headers - implications from new development for EHs
Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> Wed, 29 July 2020 16:32 UTC
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 09:32:04 -0700
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Packets with Extension Headers - implications from new development for EHs
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> On Jul 29, 2020, at 09:04 , Joseph Touch <touch@strayalpha.com> wrote: > > > >> On Jul 29, 2020, at 3:50 AM, Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com <mailto:fgont@si6networks.com>> wrote: >> >> I'm proposing to document and acknowledge reality. > > We’ve spoken about this before, but for the group: > > There is a tension between “document and acknowledge reality” and “adhere to standards to ensure interoperation”. > > Not every “reality” represents something that should change a standard. Some can - and should - be declared as “bugs” or “errors” and called out for doing so. Yes, so let’s do that… Let’s have this document represent the current situation and then call out which parts of that situation are considered to be bugs/errors and which parts we believe represent “opportunities” for improvements in the standards. > If we are merely documenting what happens to be implemented, we cease to be a standards body and become merely reporters. If we avoid any introspection or consideration of operational reality, the cease to be a relevant standards body and become an ivory tower. Owen
- [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Packets … Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… otroan
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… otroan
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Tom Herbert
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Tom Herbert
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Joseph Touch
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Tom Herbert
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Joseph Touch
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Fred Baker
- [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Packets … tom petch
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… tom petch
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… tom petch
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Gyan Mishra