Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-requirements-00.txt

Vízdal Aleš <> Mon, 19 November 2012 21:51 UTC

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From: [] On Behalf Of Lorenzo Colitti
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-requirements-00.txt

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 7:30 PM, <<>> wrote:
Besides, I do not have the feeling that there was some demand for a RFC3316 update whereas there was some support for a document providing an IPv6 profile, as proposed in draft-binet-.
Strange. I had the opposite feeling.
Does the IETF define an IPv4 profile? If not, why not?
[[david]] As an operator, I would say such document would not be required if we had IPv6 terminals. But it is not the case and we need to get such reference even if it is not our only action to get such devices.

[ales] As an operator I *need* IPv6 profile document I can refer vendors to, you see other operators on the list requesting the same, so it is clearly an issue operators are trying
to address here. Honestly, I am still not getting what's wrong with this document intended to be a requirements list such as 6204(bis).

Actually, we do have IPv6 terminals. Verizon Wireless has shipped tens of millions of them.

[ales] No, we don't and that's why we see the need to spend our efforts writing this requirements document. If we had them, we wouldn't be here.