Re: [v6ops] Worse than NATed IPv4? [was IPv6 for mobile]

[Cameron Byrne <[e-mail]>]

On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Hesham Soliman
<[e-mail]> wrote:
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> On 26/12/10 9:50 PM, "Gert Doering" <[e-mail]> wrote:
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>> Hi,
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>> On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 02:49:25PM +1100, Hesham Soliman wrote:
>>> => Yes I know that but I don't think you'd seriously say that IPv6 support
>>> was ready because 10% of the OS's supported it. That's silly. Beta releases
>>> by MS cannot count for any serious deployment. I can't believer we're
>>> discussing this
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>> I'm just inserting some facts into the claims you have made.
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>> But it doesn't really matter - you obviously have some very strong beliefs
>> how the IPv6 world is going to develop, and some other participants on this
>> list have abandoned these ideas a few years ago already.
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> => Actually I have no idea about the future, I'm questioning statements and
> assumptions made. I'll be the first to say I don't know what will happen but
> I do know what my opinion is based on the current state of play.
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>> We run a full dual-stacked backbone and office network, and are working
>> on getting all the Internet facing servers to be dual-stacked - but for
>> the access customers (eyballs), the move to dual-stack has been extremely
>> slow in the last 13 years, and it's hard to believe that this is going to
>> change all of a sudden.
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> => Do you have IPv6 access natively? I would guess that until you dual stack
> your servers and allocate IPv6 addresses to those end systems you won't see
> much traffic on IPv6. Lets face it, there is nothing IPv6 on the Internet
> now. But my point is that this will gradually happen and being DS'ed makes
> you ready for a slow but reliable transition where apps won't suffer.
>

Umm.... there is a lot of content available of IPv6 today.  I have a
very good understanding of where my mobile users are going today to
get content.  I also know that Google, Facebook, and now Yahoo to a
lesser degree and a few others are highly functional on IPv6 today.  I
feel VERY confident that my IPv6-only + NAT64 users, by the end of
2011, will service over 50% of their content natively over IPv6.
Google and Facebook are whales in the USA, when they move, the
industry moves.

Cameron

> Hesham
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>> "If they have enough IPv4 addresses to run dual-stack, what's the benefit in
>> running dual-stack?"
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>> Gert Doering
>>         -- NetMaster
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