Re: [v6ops] AWS ipv6-only features
Vasilenko Eduard <vasilenko.eduard@huawei.com> Mon, 29 November 2021 09:31 UTC
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From: Vasilenko Eduard <vasilenko.eduard@huawei.com>
To: Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@gmail.com>, Gert Doering <gert@space.net>
CC: Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>, IPv6 Ops WG <v6ops@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] AWS ipv6-only features
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IPv6 is semi-permanent till the provider would not change the prefix or the user would not change the provider. In this period, it is possible to use this IP address as static (if you want, because some registry or DNS is better). NPT is completely orthogonal to this. It does not improve or create any additional problem for this situation. IPv6 is just semi-permanent by itself. Eduard From: Mark Smith [mailto:markzzzsmith@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 29, 2021 11:58 AM To: Gert Doering <gert@space.net> Cc: Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>; IPv6 Ops WG <v6ops@ietf.org>; Vasilenko Eduard <vasilenko.eduard@huawei.com> Subject: Re: [v6ops] AWS ipv6-only features So why do you bother with IPv6? You must have been perfectly happy with IPv4 if you think there is nothing wrong with forcing end user devices to be clients only. https://blog.apnic.net/2016/10/26/trouble-nat-part-2/ On Mon, 29 Nov 2021, 18:09 Gert Doering, <gert@space.net<mailto:gert@space.net>> wrote: Hi, On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 03:15:52PM +0900, Lorenzo Colitti wrote: > With NPTv6, you can't tell a peer what address they can reach you at. So > applications like videoconferencing cannot work without a relay. That ship has sailed long ago. All this stuff works by registering some sort of identity at a central server, and that server will relay the session setup (and knows the member IPs). Nobody calls "an IP address". So you need the registration/mapping service anyway. (And to find the central server, a magic service called "DNS" was invented) Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Michael Emmer Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 _______________________________________________ v6ops mailing list v6ops@ietf.org<mailto:v6ops@ietf.org> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops
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