Re: [v6ops] WG Doc? draft-gont-v6ops-ipv6-ehs-packet-drops

Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> Tue, 29 March 2016 22:19 UTC

Return-Path: <fgont@si6networks.com>
X-Original-To: v6ops@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: v6ops@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A6F12D996 for <v6ops@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 15:19:21 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.901
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PcDUUFLE8_Dq for <v6ops@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 15:19:19 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from fgont.go6lab.si (fgont.go6lab.si [91.239.96.14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C7E8112D9D4 for <v6ops@ietf.org>; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 15:19:18 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [10.0.0.189] (unknown [176.245.35.191]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by fgont.go6lab.si (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 399E78088E; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 00:19:14 +0200 (CEST)
To: Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu>, otroan@employees.org
References: <CAHw9_iLbqEvsw0x4dDcA3Zy3SXKUROcQuy5nSynsL9Xi+xrZLg@mail.gmail.com> <566C93D0-62FF-4700-BC05-7F9AF12AF1BD@employees.org> <56E892B8.9030902@foobar.org> <394925FE-FAB1-4FFC-B1CF-4F64CC58F613@employees.org> <56E94275.20700@foobar.org> <3AE1DE20-D735-4262-A3FB-7C01F30BAFA2@employees.org> <56E96F74.7000206@foobar.org> <CALx6S37zP4UvCtBJsvnPN6OmDB0OQDMfRrJNy1XF0t4COStUjQ@mail.gmail.com> <56E98086.5040209@foobar.org> <EE17974D-EDA4-4732-B29E-B2B3BC36DB86@employees.org> <20160328183844.GR62900@Space.Net> <56F9A22B.2030301@isi.edu> <5E619124-0A60-45BB-86AA-7F7D5CC614AD@cisco.com> <56F9AE53.8060903@gmail.com> <56F9BEA3.9050409@isi.edu> <4542AA33-F4FA-4F52-B5FE-9ABF2627CD5E@cisco.com> <56F9C856.2030403@gmail.com> <56F9C915.9070408@isi.edu> <E2C0BF9F-806C-4ACC-86CE-1B678628E687@employees.org> <56FAA1EA.80206@isi.edu> <4B4BD1F4-6381-400D-A82E-524DDAD5170B@employees.org> <56FAD68B.1030200@isi.edu>
From: Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com>
X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110
Message-ID: <56FAF439.3070305@si6networks.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 23:31:37 +0200
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <56FAD68B.1030200@isi.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Archived-At: <http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/v6ops/qIBXUiuVbsV6MGr4XKnob6726Gc>
Cc: "v6ops@ietf.org" <v6ops@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [v6ops] WG Doc? draft-gont-v6ops-ipv6-ehs-packet-drops
X-BeenThere: v6ops@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17
Precedence: list
List-Id: v6ops discussion list <v6ops.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/v6ops>, <mailto:v6ops-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/v6ops/>
List-Post: <mailto:v6ops@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:v6ops-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops>, <mailto:v6ops-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:19:21 -0000

On 03/29/2016 09:24 PM, Joe Touch wrote:
> I wasn't aware we were still bothering differentiating tracks within
> standards-track (does anyone really care?), but if we are, then we might
> reconsider whether to shift this to IS.
> 
> IS indicates a level of confidence that I think we don't have, given the
> level to which ICMPs are filtered and the potential of the techniques in
> that RFC to result in blackholes if not otherwise addressed.

One could easily s/ICMPs/EHs/ in your statement....



> Finally, I am astounded that this change would occur in 6man. This is
> not an IPv6-specific doc . Any such change should happen in INTAREA IMO.

Why so? I think 6man is where the IPv6 std track expertise is.

Thanks,
-- 
Fernando Gont
SI6 Networks
e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com
PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492