Re: [v6ops] Last Call: <draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profile-04.txt> (Internet Protocol Version 6 (IPv6) Profile for 3GPP Mobile Devices) to Informational RFC

Vízdal Aleš <ales.vizdal@t-mobile.cz> Tue, 10 September 2013 14:43 UTC

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From: Vízdal Aleš <ales.vizdal@t-mobile.cz>
To: Ted Lemon <Ted.Lemon@nominum.com>, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 16:43:29 +0200
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Last Call: <draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profile-04.txt> (Internet Protocol Version 6 (IPv6) Profile for 3GPP Mobile Devices) to Informational RFC
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: v6ops-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:v6ops-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ted
> Lemon
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 3:25 PM
> To: Owen DeLong
> Cc: v6ops@ietf.org WG
> Subject: Re: [v6ops] Last Call: <draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profile-04.txt>
> (Internet Protocol Version 6 (IPv6) Profile for 3GPP Mobile Devices) to Informational
> RFC
> 
> On Sep 10, 2013, at 5:35 AM, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
> > PDP contexts are a media adaptation problem unique to the (bizarre) choices of the
> cellular industry in order to support their arcane billing and licensing schemes.
> 
> Much sympathy.   However, we do in fact do things specific to 3gpp environments.
> There's a v6ops document in review in the IESG right now that's related:
> 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc3316bis/
> 
> As you can see, this is a followon to previous work that was done in the IETF, so
> there's a long history of doing this _sort_ of work in the IETF.   I'm not claiming any
> position on whether the current document you are discussing is a good idea or not, but
> I think the argument that the IETF doesn't do this isn't supported by the facts, so
> IMHO you ought to be making arguments about this document as it relates to the
> v6ops charter rather than the more general argument you are currently making.

There is another one http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6459

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