Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-requirements-00.txt

Cameron Byrne <> Mon, 19 November 2012 14:36 UTC

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On Nov 19, 2012 2:03 AM, "Lorenzo Colitti" <> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 6:57 PM, <> wrote:
>>> And I do not understand the comment about the need to remove some
requirements and to provide a link to RFC3316bis document. I do not
understand why a RFCbis draft was proposed if the specifications were
already present in draft-binet-* document.
> Because that draft properly updates RFC3316. This document does not
update RFC3316, it's something completely different.
>>> Second, most of this document attempts to standardize feature sets, not
protocols or interoperability. I'm not sure this is is in scope for the
IETF, and even more so for an operations group inside the IETF.
>>> [[david]] It is your opinion but as operator, it is something which is
very important and there is a lack in standardisation documents where some
IPv6 profile is defined. We receive a lot of support about
such specifications.
> Does the IETF define an IPv4 profile? If not, why not?

Why no ipv4 profile?   Because ipv4 network behavior is emergent behavior
not an engineered behavior.

The definition of "working" on ipv4 is that it does not break something
that already works.... so working is defined by baggage. Given that the
only fully deployed ipv6 3gpp network is very unique and only one data
point,  it is not sufficient to create a repeatable model.

The goal of this doc, like 6204, is to do some more consensus based
engineering to better bootstrap our ipv6 deployments.

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