[v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environment
Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Wed, 24 July 2024 02:56 UTC
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Subject: [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environment
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No, I mean can you describe a real-world scenario where this would happen. I get that you could configure a DHCP server to do this. The question is, when would someone configure the DHCP server that way? On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 7:49 PM David Farmer <farmer@umn.edu> wrote: > I already did scenario A.3 in draft-ietf-snac-simple. It is appropriate > for the SNAC router to obtain a ULA prefix instead of a GUA prefix to > reduce the attack surface of the IOT devices. > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 9:33 PM Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote: > >> Can you give us an example of a situation where such a decision would >> need to be made? >> >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 6:48 PM David Farmer <farmer= >> 40umn.edu@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: >> >>> The classic ISP use case for DHCPv6 PD, as envisioned initially by >>> RFC3633 and integrated into RFC8415, typically expected a single prefix to >>> be delegated to a requesting router from the ISP. Meanwhile, many of the >>> draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-lan-pd use cases probably expect a subdelegation from >>> this ISP provided prefix. Nevertheless, an RFC7084 CE Router may also have >>> a ULA prefix to subdelegate from, and a ULA prefix may be more appropriate >>> for some of the use cases. Not to mention, there may be prefixes from more >>> than one ISP or additional prefixes while renumbering. >>> >>> Should the delegating router in draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-lan-pd advertise >>> subdelegations from all prefixes it may have and let the requesting router >>> choose one or more? How does the requesting router know which prefixes it >>> is appropriate to select in what circumstances? If the delegating router >>> doesn't advertise subdelegations from all prefixes, how does it know which >>> prefixes to advertise to which requesting routers? >>> >>> You can also ask the question from the opposite direction: How does the >>> requesting router solicit for a ULA prefix instead of a GUA prefix if that >>> is more appropriate for its use case? >>> >>> These questions came to mind while reading draft-ietf-snac-simple, as it >>> would seem reasonable to want the SCAC router to obtain a ULA prefix from >>> the delegating router and not a GUA prefix, especially in the scenario >>> described in A.3. However, similar questions exist for downstream RFC7084 >>> or PD-per-device in a multi-prefix environment. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> -- >>> =============================================== >>> David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu >>> Networking & Telecommunication Services >>> Office of Information Technology >>> University of Minnesota >>> 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 >>> Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 >>> =============================================== >>> _______________________________________________ >>> v6ops mailing list -- v6ops@ietf.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to v6ops-leave@ietf.org >>> >> > > -- > =============================================== > David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu > Networking & Telecommunication Services > Office of Information Technology > University of Minnesota > 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 > Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 > =============================================== >
- [v6ops] DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environment David Farmer
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… David Farmer
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… David Farmer
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… David Farmer
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… David Farmer
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… David Farmer
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… Ole Trøan
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… David Farmer
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… Timothy Winters
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… David Farmer
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… David Farmer
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… Ole Trøan
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… Timothy Winters
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… Timothy Winters
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… David Farmer
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… David Farmer
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… David Farmer
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… Timothy Winters
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… David Farmer
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… Ole Trøan
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… David Farmer
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: DHCPv6 PD in a multi-prefix environme… Daryll Swer