[v6ops] Re: The V6OPS WG has placed draft-cc-v6ops-wlcg-flow-label-marking in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"

Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com> Fri, 26 July 2024 23:29 UTC

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From: Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2024 16:28:45 -0700
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On Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 2:59 PM David Farmer
<farmer=40umn.edu@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 7:06 PM Tom Herbert <tom=40herbertland.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>
>> "In our testing, these issues are no less common in Research and
>> Education networks."
>>
>> Can you provide more information on this? Also, as "research" networks
>> it seems like there might be more latitude to be cutting edge and fix
>> problems with things like EH?
>
>
> The Research and Education networking community comprises several types of networks. Most of these networks are purpose-built to support the global scientific research enterprise. These networks are very different from typical enterprise business networks and simultaneously very similar in other ways. Modern scientific research is collaborative, multi-institutional, and multi-domain in nature. These networks support this by connecting individual researchers across the globe with their collaborators, laboratories, and scientific resources, including instruments like telescopes, electron microscopes, particle accelerators, and other cyberinfrastructure like supercomputers, HPC clusters, massive data stores, and now commercially available cloud resources. Many billions of dollars of funded research depend on these networks.
>
> The R&E networking community also has a few networks designed as laboratories supporting the science of networking and computer science more generally. These networks are typically built as virtual overlays or utilizing additional, excess, or parallel capacity from the production science networks discussed above. In the US, the previous generation was known as Global Environment for Network Innovations (GENI). The current generation of this in the US is FABRIC (FABRIC is Adaptive ProgrammaBle Research Infrastructure for Computer Science and Science Applications) is an International infrastructure that enables cutting-edge experimentation and research at-scale in the areas of networking, cybersecurity, distributed computing, storage, virtual reality, 5G, machine learning, and science applications.
>
> See the following;
> https://www.geni.net/
> https://portal.fabric-testbed.net/about/about-fabric
>

David,

> I hope that helps!

Yes, very much! Extrapolating, it sounds like these networks are being
customized already and there's probably more motivation to adopt new
technologies especially if they solve specific problems. Is there a
list or group that is discussing such things, including the problems
of IPv6 and EH in these networks?

Tom

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