Re: [v6ops] Please review the No IPv4 draft

"Niall O'Reilly" <niall.oreilly@ucd.ie> Tue, 22 April 2014 16:06 UTC

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From: Niall O'Reilly <niall.oreilly@ucd.ie>
To: Ted Lemon <ted.lemon@nominum.com>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Please review the No IPv4 draft
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At Tue, 22 Apr 2014 11:39:11 -0400,
Ted Lemon wrote:
> 
> On Apr 22, 2014, at 11:32 AM, Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com> wrote:
> > In networks that support only IPv4, filtering DHCPv4 packets is
> > probably supported.

  Confirmed from personal experience on the campus network where I work.

> > Filtering DHCPv6 or RA packets may not be
> > supported and may require hardware upgrades. 

  Confirmed as mentioned above.

> > On such networks, the
> > damage from rogue DHCPv6 or RA packets is mitigated by happy
> > eyeballs.

  I cannot personally confirm this.

> > The damage from rogue "shut down your entire IPv4 stack"
> > options cannot be.

  None of us can confirm this, as it depends on future client
  implementation.

> Do you have data on this, or is it just supposition?

  I expect that the two points I was able to confirm above are widely
  known among those who have tried to implement IPv6 on an existing
  IPv4-only network.

  Best regards,
  Niall O'Reilly