[v6ops] Re: New Version Notification for draft-link-v6ops-claton-03.txt
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Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2024 09:53:45 +0800
From: Chongfeng Xie <chongfeng.xie@foxmail.com>
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Subject: [v6ops] Re: New Version Notification for draft-link-v6ops-claton-03.txt
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Hi, I support the adoption of this document. Chongfeng From: Nick Buraglio Date: 2024-07-07 05:59 To: V6 Ops List Subject: [v6ops] Re: New Version Notification for draft-link-v6ops-claton-03.txt A reminder that this adoption call is still open through tomorrow evening. Anyone interested in this please read and reply. nb On Fri, Jul 5, 2024 at 4:25 AM Jen Linkova <furry13@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Jordi, On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 7:43 AM jordi.palet@consulintel.es <jordi.palet@consulintel.es> wrote: > >> Then, instead ensure that is well understood that the CLAT can be also in a CE: > >> * CLAT is performed by the host itself. > >> So: > >> * CLAT is performed by the host itself or a CE. > >> or > >> * CLAT is performed by the node (host or router). > > > > This paragraph is describing the “Wireless” mode (CLAT on a host) > > outside of 3GPP - in Wi-Fi hotspots, enterprise networks etc. So in > > this scenario it’s important that CLAT is performed by a host, not a > > CE router. > > The point is that there are UEs that are CE. For example, a well known case is T-Mobile that provided a CE with 464XLAT for broadband provisioning, as they don’t have GPON, etc. How about we say ' CLAT is performed by the UE'? > >> May be we need to consider defining a maximum delay instead of "The delay is implementation specific”. > > > > If we want to do this, I’d rather specify the default value and let > > implementations choose whether they want to use it or not. I guess the > > delay shall be comparable with an RTT between the client and the DHCP > > server(s) - but I do not know what value to choose here. Any > > suggestions? > > The reason why we needed HE was because the fallback delay from IPv6 to IPv4 was not predefined … I think we should avoid those type of situations. >The problem is that the RTT to DHCP servers can vary a lot in different contexts. Exactly. So, for example, why shall we prevent the node from remembering the median RTT for previous connections to the given network, and using it as a timeout value? If we are going to define that maximum delay, what do you think it should be? -- Cheers, Jen Linkova _______________________________________________ v6ops mailing list -- v6ops@ietf.org To unsubscribe send an email to v6ops-leave@ietf.org
- [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-l… Jen Linkova
- [v6ops] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… George Michaelson
- [v6ops] Re: New Version Notification for draft-li… jordi.palet@consulintel.es
- [v6ops] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Jen Linkova
- [v6ops] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Ole Trøan
- [v6ops] Re: New Version Notification for draft-li… Jen Linkova
- [v6ops] Re: New Version Notification for draft-li… Kawashima Masanobu(川島 正伸)
- [v6ops] Re: New Version Notification for draft-li… Jen Linkova
- [v6ops] Re: ##freemail## Re: Re: New Version Noti… Kawashima Masanobu(川島 正伸)
- [v6ops] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: ##freemail## Re: Re: N… Tommy Jensen
- [v6ops] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: ##freemail## Re: Re: N… Kawashima Masanobu(川島 正伸)
- [v6ops] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: ##freemail## Re: Re: N… Tommy Jensen
- [v6ops] Re: New Version Notification for draft-li… Kawashima Masanobu(川島 正伸)
- [v6ops] Re: New Version Notification for draft-li… Tommy Jensen
- [v6ops] Re: New Version Notification for draft-li… Kawashima Masanobu(川島 正伸)
- [v6ops] Re: New Version Notification for draft-li… jordi.palet@consulintel.es
- [v6ops] Re: New Version Notification for draft-li… Jen Linkova
- [v6ops] Re: New Version Notification for draft-li… Nick Buraglio
- [v6ops] Re: New Version Notification for draft-li… Chongfeng Xie