[v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3
Philip Homburg <pch-v6ops-13@u-1.phicoh.com> Tue, 16 July 2024 11:24 UTC
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> Following the same rule, > the ISPs couldnt have access to logs in the CPEs, which I believe > they have using multiple protocols. You say it like it is a good thing. I think it is bad if ISPs can read access logs without the user's consent. The IETF should stay far from that. Of course, it possible the current CPE logs don't have privacy sensitive data. If my ISP would like to look at my VDSL pamameters then that wouldn't concern me. As soon as it becomes names of sites I visit or IP address I visit, or client devices I have, it becomes an issue.
- [v6ops] Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Tommy Pauly
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Dispatching Happy E… Brian E Carpenter
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Dispatching Happy Eyeba… Bob Hinden
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Dispatching Happy Eyeba… Tommy Pauly
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Xipengxiao
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 jordi.palet@consulintel.es
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Tommy Pauly
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Jeremy Duncan
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Tommy Pauly
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Philip Homburg
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Xipengxiao
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Philip Homburg
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 David Farmer
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Re: Dispatching Hap… David Farmer
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Xipengxiao
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Dispatching Happy E… Tommy Pauly
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Gert Doering
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Brian Candler
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Gert Doering
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Re: Dispatching Hap… Gert Doering
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Philip Homburg
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Soni "They/Them" L.
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Xipengxiao
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Re: Dispatching Hap… Stephen Farrell
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 jordi.palet@consulintel.es
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Re: Dispatching Hap… Stephen Farrell
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Brian Candler
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Brian Candler
- Re: [v6ops] [Alldispatch] Dispatching Happy Eyeba… Michael Richardson
- Re: [v6ops] [Alldispatch] Dispatching Happy Eyeba… Tommy Pauly
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Re: Dispatching Hap… Kyle Larose
- Re: [v6ops] [Alldispatch] Dispatching Happy Eyeba… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [v6ops] [Alldispatch] Dispatching Happy Eyeba… Tim Chown
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Tommy Pauly
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Gert Doering
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Dispatching Happy E… Tommy Pauly
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Re: Dispatching Hap… David Farmer
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Dispatching Happy Eyeba… Tommy Pauly
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Dispatching Happy Eyeba… Brian E Carpenter
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Re: Dispatching Hap… Gert Doering
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Philip Homburg
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Xipengxiao
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 jordi.palet@consulintel.es
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Philip Homburg
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Nick Buraglio
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Re: Dispatching Hap… Michael Richardson
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Dan Wing
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Philip Homburg
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Matthew Petach
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Philip Homburg
- [v6ops] Exposing HEv3 results (was Re: Re: Dispat… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- [v6ops] Re: Exposing HEv3 results (was Re: Re: Di… Brian E Carpenter
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Exposing HEv3 resul… Michael Richardson
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Exposing HEv3 resul… Stephen Farrell
- [v6ops] Re: Exposing HEv3 results (was Re: Re: Di… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Re: Dispatching Hap… Tommy Pauly
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Dispatching Happy E… Ted Hardie
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Dispatching Happy E… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- [v6ops] Re: Exposing HEv3 results (was Re: Re: Di… Vasilenko Eduard
- [v6ops] Re: Exposing HEv3 results (was Re: Re: Di… David Schinazi
- [v6ops] Re: Exposing HEv3 results (was Re: Re: Di… David Farmer
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Re: Dispatching Hap… Stephen Farrell
- [v6ops] Re: Exposing HEv3 results (was Re: Re: Di… Erik Nygren
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Re: Dispatching Hap… Michael Richardson
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Erik Nygren
- [v6ops] Re: Exposing HEv3 results (was Re: Re: Di… Gyan Mishra
- [v6ops] Re: Exposing HEv3 results (was Re: Re: Di… David Schinazi