Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (ND and extension headers)
"Manfredi, Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@boeing.com> Thu, 23 June 2011 20:40 UTC
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From: "Manfredi, Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@boeing.com>
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Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:40:12 -0500
Thread-Topic: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (ND and extension headers)
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (ND and extension headers)
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Ted Lemon wrote: > There probably is no single solution. But let's consider the solution > Mark proposed: use the fact that you control the infrastructure to > control the flow of packets on the network in such a way that rogue RAs > cannot reach leaf nodes. The reason I object to this solution, in > addition to the fact that it breaks multicast, is that it's a firewall > solution: the client doesn't know it's safe, and as soon as it connects > to a network that's not protected in this way, it's vulnerable. But > the model of using infrastructure control as a credential is > interesting. While I too find it hard to accept the ETTH solution as being "real" Ethernet, I believe it is the network that is trying to protect itself here, more than altruistic protection of clients. If clients are protected as a result, great. Yes, in another network, those same clients might not be protected at all. Your solutions appear to be more client-oriented. Bert
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… RJ Atkinson
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… RJ Atkinson
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… RJ Atkinson
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… RJ Atkinson
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Joel Jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Ray Hunter
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Tim Chown
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Ray Hunter
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Manfredi, Albert E
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Manfredi, Albert E
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Mark Andrews
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… David Farmer
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… David Farmer
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Question regarding RA-Guard evasion (… Joel Jaeggli