Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profile last call- "harmfully broad"?

Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com> Thu, 19 February 2015 12:45 UTC

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From: Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 21:45:32 +0900
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profile last call- "harmfully broad"?
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On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:31 PM, Dave Michaud <Dave.Michaud@rci.rogers.com>
wrote:

>  This is directly in line with the v6ops charter:
>
>  The IPv6 Operations Working Group (v6ops) develops guidelines for the
> operation of a shared IPv4/IPv6 Internet and provides operational
> guidance on how to deploy IPv6 into existing IPv4-only networks,
> as well as into new network installations.
>
> The main focus of the v6ops WG is to look at the immediate
> deployment issues; more advanced stages of deployment and transition
> are a lower priority.
>
>
Actually, it isn't, really. The charter is operational guidance for the
IPv4/IPv6 Internet. Not host requirements.

In fact, if you look at the numbered list in the charter, the items are
"identify operational issues and determine solutions", "identify potential
security risks", "identify portions of the specs that can cause operational
concerns", and "analyze solutions for deploying IPv6 within network
environments". None of those cover this document.