Re: [v6ops] WG Doc? draft-gont-v6ops-ipv6-ehs-packet-drops

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Sun, 13 March 2016 02:47 UTC

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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] WG Doc? draft-gont-v6ops-ipv6-ehs-packet-drops
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On 13/03/2016 10:43, otroan@employees.org wrote:
> Brian,
> 
> [...]
> 
>>> I've read through the document one more time. Would you be able to cite new and useful information in this document?
>>> That isn't already described elsewhere...?
>>
>> The observational data, which for some reason people wanted to push into an Appendix.
>> For me that's the main point of the document.
> 
> Which observational data are you thinking of?
> I looked and couldn't find any, you aren't thinking of draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6-ehs-in-real-world?

Zut alors! (which Google translates to Norwegian as "Shucks!").
Yes, I was momentarily confused between the two documents, sorry.

That said, where else will an implementer or an operator find this collection
of information about operational practice or limitations?

    Brian