Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-addr-availability-01.txt
Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@gmail.com> Sat, 25 July 2015 04:07 UTC
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-addr-availability-01.txt
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Hi, On 24 July 2015 at 17:45, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote: > I like -01 even better than -00. > So do I. > As well as the reference [TARP], you might add draft-smith-enhance-vne-with-ipv6 > as a use case for a /64 per host (specifically per NVE, network virtual edge). > I've never really thought of tunnel end-points (NVEs in that draft) as 'hosts', however I suppose they are if they're the final destination for the packet, as NVEs are for underlay network packets. I've been thinking a bit recently about how to describe/determine where the network "finishes" and the host/end "starts", partly in the context of things like Segment Routing and "service function chaining" or "network function virtualisation". I've thought the simple and fundamental rule is that the network ends and the host/end starts at the "payload don't care/care" boundary. If the receiving device doesn't care what the payload is (and therefore doesn't care if the payload is encrypted or not), then it is a device in the network. If receiving device cares about what the payload is, then it is performing host/end functions. By that definition, even though NVEs are only performing layer 2/layer 3 frame/packet processing, they're hosts/ends, because they look at and process the payload of the packet they receive that are directed specifically at them (i.e., packet dest addr is their own /64 prefix in that draft). Regards, Mark. > Regards > Brian > > _______________________________________________ > v6ops mailing list > v6ops@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Andrew 👽 Yourtchenko
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Andrew 👽 Yourtchenko
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Andrew 👽 Yourtchenko
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Tore Anderson
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Tore Anderson
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-colitti-v6ops-host-… Alexandru Petrescu