RE: [v6tc] Issue 1: Could we live with UDP encapsulation always o n?
"Karen E. Nielsen (AH/LMD)" <karen.e.nielsen@ericsson.com> Wed, 22 December 2004 14:50 UTC
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From: "Karen E. Nielsen (AH/LMD)" <karen.e.nielsen@ericsson.com>
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Subject: RE: [v6tc] Issue 1: Could we live with UDP encapsulation always o n?
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Hi - Alain has asked me to sent this to the list. For what it's worth..... In what concerns Ipv6-UDP-IPv4 opposed to Ipv6-Ipv4, there are at least 3 things to consider: - radio overhead - compression mechanisms - implementation aspects Radio link overhead: Obviously radio people always want to have the smallest overhead possible. Having said that then in the worst case VoIP scenarios, that is, lots of packets of 44 bytes payload, this on the radio link results in a difference of packet sizes: With UDP encapsulation, 44 bytes of payload --> Packet size on radio: 44+8+20+8+40 + 12(link overhead) = 124 Without UDP encapsulation, 44 bytes of payload --> Packet size on radio 44+8+20+40 + 12(link overhead) = 116 Thus all in all an worst case excess in 7% in radio resource consumption. Compression mechanisms (e.g. ROCH): Should be investigated. Implementation aspects: I absolutely assume that we are talking about UDP-lite (no checksum calculations) >From an implementation aspects, I don't really like the UDP encapsulation (but it can be done of course). In routers (here tunnel servers) the next header value often determines whether the packet is sent to the control plane for higher layer processing. With UDP encapsulation either an additional UDP filtering step must be implemented in the forwarding plane or the packets will be sent to slow path processing. Neither of these alternatives are really promising (either they result in bad performance or in excessive development costs). In hosts the problem is probably not as bad performance wise. But it still complies badly with modular implementations, i.e. user plane higher layer processing opposed to kernel space interface processing. The stateful aspect is not good, but scalability wise it may not perform any worse than a MIP Home Agent. The business case for making high performance Home Agents may be much better than the corresponding one for transition mechanisms, though. Semi-conclusion: Now worst case 7% "waste" of radio resources is certainly not negligible business wise, but it should not be a showstopper. This especially given that the bandwidths of the radio links are ever increasing AND that preferably only a small portion of the traffic over the link will be tunnelling traffic. Personally, I am much more concerned with the implementation aspects in end-nodes and routers. I cannot say that any of this is show-stopper candidates, but all in all it doesn't make v6-udp-v4 seem very attractive compared to v6-in-v4 the mechanisms we work with today. BR, Karen _______________________________________________ v6tc mailing list v6tc@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6tc
- RE: [v6tc] Issue 1: Could we live with UDP encaps… Karen E. Nielsen (AH/LMD)
- RE: [v6tc] Issue 1: Could we live with UDP encaps… Pekka Savola
- Re: [v6tc] Issue 1: Could we live with UDP encaps… Ole Troan
- RE: [v6tc] Issue 1: Could we live with UDP encaps… Soliman, Hesham