Re: l2tp support on OS's Re: [v6tc] Re: Tunneling and Transition Drafts

I guess you forget:
1) Cellular phones, I don't think none of them support or even has plans for
L2TP.
2) Lots of low cost CPEs.

Both of this options represent also a big market share.

Regards,
Jordi

> De: Jeroen Massar <jeroen@unfix.org>
> Organización: Unfix
> Responder a: <v6tc-bounces@ietf.org>
> Fecha: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 23:15:56 +0200
> Para: "W. Mark Townsley" <townsley@cisco.com>
> CC: "v6tc@ietf.org" <v6tc@ietf.org>
> Asunto: l2tp support on OS's Re: [v6tc] Re: Tunneling and Transition Drafts
> 
> Short summary first, what supports it:
>  - Windows XP SP2 does not have it
>  - Windows Longhorn will have it (they say),
>    but out in 2007 or most likely later and then needs to be deployed
>    and be fed to the users, who will stick with XP for some time anyway.
>  - *BSD
>  - Linux
>  - Most CPE's (Cisco/Yahama/...)
> 
> But Windows is a huge market for most ISP's...
> 
> On Fri, 2005-04-08 at 15:21 -0400, W. Mark Townsley wrote:
>> 
>> Jeroen Massar wrote:
>>> 
>>> Nevertheless I'll put it somewhere on that big list, lets see how many
>>> parties
>>> get canceled this week...
>> 
>> I think a decent GPL or free IPv6 PPP for Windows XP would be a service to
>> the 
>> community in general. Please write one.
> 
> Some other people convinced me and I actually was under the impression
> that L2TP would not work over NAT thus I need to make up for it. It also
> allows quite a number of scenarios to be solved more easily.
> I don't really like GPL but that is off topic for sure. Well the night
> reading is printed out ;) <hint> Let's make L2TP a viable option.
> 
>>>> In the end, a lot of implementations may actually be CPEs rather than
>>>> hosts, in 
>>>> which case having the linux implementation helps.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Linux supports it, but not too many people want to actually touch their
>>> gear.
>>> and for most of those people Linux is still scary.
>> 
>> For a CPE? Linksys uses Linux.
> 
> I know, but I meant the original image, as customers might still be
> holding back on using a non-vendor image. It would thus be really nice
> to have images that defaultly are IPv6 enabled, and I mean this for
> *all* the products that are available.
> 
> The OpenWRT images, with which I flashed my box, indeed support IPv6 and
> getting a lt2p client/daemon on it should not be an issue indeed.
> 
> Greets,
>  Jeroen
> 
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