Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards
Kevin Marks <kevinmarks@gmail.com> Mon, 01 July 2013 10:32 UTC
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Subject: Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards
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do email addresses (or acct: extension thereof per webfinger/fist to accomodate email-like jabber addresses) and http addresses cover all practical IDs? A twitter handle is a URL: @kevinmarks is shorthand for https://twitter.com/kevinmarks A facebook ID is an email or a URL - https://facebook.com/kevinmarks is the same as kevinmarks@facebook.com The hCard practice is uid's are URLs Is there a case I'm missing here? On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 8:13 PM, DataPacRat <datapacrat@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 9:27 PM, DataPacRat <datapacrat@gmail.com> wrote: > > As a related thought; would it be sufficiently useful to add a tag to > state > > which of the other fields in that vCard is to be preferred for sorting > and > > identification purposes? For example, webfinger and webfist use an email > > address as the unique identification string; Apple seems to use UID; and > I'm > > trying to work with vCards that have little more than a Twitter handle. > > > > As a minor variation of the above, perhaps instead of a single canonical > ID > > string, a list in preferential order, to allow for better > interoperability > > between systems requiring different sorts of ID strings. > > After some initial fiddling around; something at least resembling the > above seems to be a near-necessity, for the various uses I've been > able to work with so far. > > The tricky part seems to be that, when taking one authenticated vCard > and using that identity as an authentication authority itself, there > isn't any firm rule about what string to use as the identifier for > that authority. Given that some vCards have email addresses and some > don't; some have UIDs; some have Twitter handles; etc; there doesn't > seem to be any practical way to declare that one particular sort of > field /has/ to be used as a canonical ID-string. So having a > PREFERRED-ID field to have the option to declare what string is most > useful to be used as such would make implementing a full-fledged > authentication system a heckuvalot easier. > > And once the field exists at all, it seems that allowing it to list > more than one field, presumably in descending order of preference, > would allow for easier interoperability between vCard systems > containing different subsets of identifying information. Eg, "The UID > is the preferred ID-string; but if your particular system doesn't > handle that, you could use the email address instead, or failing that, > the nickname." > > > As a practical example; the webfist protocol uses email addresses as > canonical ID strings, which, with a bit of hash function trickery, > allows for relatively easy lookups in the webfist ID database. Having > even just a short list of potential ID-strings could allow, if nothing > else, all of them to be hashed into a similar database, so that in the > future, someone seeking to authenticate that identity can lookup > whichever one of those strings they happen to have available to them. > > > So unless someone has a better idea, I'm definitely adding this to the > signed vCard proposal. (And since we seem to have passed the initial > inquiry stage, I'm updating the subject line accordingly.) > > > Thank you for your time, > -- > DataPacRat > "Half of knowledge is knowing the questions." -- The Cynic's Book of Wisdom > _______________________________________________ > VCARDDAV mailing list > VCARDDAV@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vcarddav >
- [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards Kevin Marks
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards Eliot Lear
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards Simon Perreault
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards Eliot Lear
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards Simon Perreault
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards Simon Perreault
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards Michael Angstadt
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards Michael Angstadt
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards Evert Pot
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards Cyrus Daboo
- [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards Michael Angstadt
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards Etan Wexler
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards Kevin Marks
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards Michael Angstadt
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards Michael Angstadt
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards Cyrus Daboo
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards Kevin Marks
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards DataPacRat