Re: [VCARDDAV] Review of draft-fukuda-vcarddav-phonetic-transcription-01.txt
Gren Elliot <fatkudu@gmail.com> Fri, 20 September 2013 09:05 UTC
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From: Gren Elliot <fatkudu@gmail.com>
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Hi Fukada-san and DataPacRat,
> I'm not sure if you meant to use the 'Type' parameter in your second
> example; instead of
>
> PHONETIC-FULL-NAME;TYPE=IPA-X-SAMPA:jamada ta4oM;;
>
> you may have meant something more like
>
> PHONETIC-FULL-NAME;LANGUAGE=fonxsamp:jamada ta4oM;;
>
> or
>
> PHONETIC-FULL-NAME;LANGUAGE=jp-fonxsamp:jamada ta4oM;;
I think the original example is more accurate. "ja" is an appropriate
setting for a language but I don't believe either "fonxsamp" or
"jp-fonxsamp" fit the description of a language.
I'd like to look at 2 examples to illustrate another issue with
treating LANGUAGE as the most important parameter.
If you understand Japanese and specifically Hiragana/Katakana work,
you can guess that the text of the following will be only Hiragana or
Katakana. However, nothing actually says that, and I think that is
crucial missing information.
PHONETIC-FULL-NAME;LANGUAGE=jp:<U+3084><U+307E><U+3060>
<U+305F><U+308D><U+3046>;<U+3084><U+307E><U+3060>;
<U+305F><U+308D><U+3046>
; <U+XXXX> denotes a UTF8-encoded Unicode character.
However, even if you understand English:
PHONETIC-FULL-NAME;LANGUAGE=en:Siobhan St. John Smith
wouldn't help you pronounce that name. Most English people would
probably guess wrong.
I think TYPE or MEDIA-TYPE are more appropriate. Given Cyrus Daboo's
familiarity with the RFC process, I suspect his suggestions are likely
to be the better of these two. I propose MEDIATYPE in preference to
TYPE. The default should be:
MEDIATYPE=text/ipa; option=x-sampa
The full Hiragana example would then become:
PHONETIC-FULL-NAME;MEDIATYPE=text/hiragana:<U+3084><U+307E><U+3060>
<U+305F><U+308D><U+3046>;<U+3084><U+307E><U+3060>;
<U+305F><U+308D><U+3046>
; <U+XXXX> denotes a UTF8-encoded Unicode character.
Thanks and regards,
Gren
- [VCARDDAV] Review of draft-fukuda-vcarddav-phonet… Teiichiro Fukuda
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Review of draft-fukuda-vcarddav-ph… DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Review of draft-fukuda-vcarddav-ph… Teiichiro Fukuda
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Review of draft-fukuda-vcarddav-ph… Gren Elliot
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Review of draft-fukuda-vcarddav-ph… Michael Angstadt
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Review of draft-fukuda-vcarddav-ph… Teiichiro Fukuda