Re: [VCARDDAV] How to encode X-Properties in XML?
Joe Hildebrand <joe.hildebrand@webex.com> Tue, 30 March 2010 05:14 UTC
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Subject: Re: [VCARDDAV] How to encode X-Properties in XML?
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On 3/24/10 10:36 AM, "Simon Perreault" <simon.perreault@viagenie.ca> wrote: > Here's a summary of the hallway discussion on this issue: > > The only argument against proposal #2 (<x-foo> and <vnd-123-foo> in the > vCard namespace) was that it prevents you from having a schema that > would not accept invalid properties. > > However, implementations already need to accept new properties that are > registered by IANA. These will create new elements in the vCard > namespace, just like x-props and vendor props. Therefore, the argument > doesn't apply. > > So unless new information is received, I'll go with #2 in the next rev. I'm onboard with this approach. There were a couple more subtleties that came out of thinking about this some more, that I would like to see captured in the text. Most of this has been talked about on the list before, so this is more in the way of recap: - In the XML format, any child of <vcard> in the default namespace gets translated to a text property. X-, VND-, and newly-registered-but-not-yet-supported-in-your-software elements all fall into this category. Unfortunately, it appears that we need to upcase in the XML-to-text direction, and downcase in the opposite direction. Now that we're in UTF-8, there's a little bit of work to specify these mappings. - In the XML format, any child of <vcard> in a namespace other than the default gets turned into XML: in the text format. Even if it is standardized. - In the text format, XML: properties always get directly transliterated into XML as children of <vcard>. This means they MUST have a namespace other than the default. If they don't, we can specify what happens, but the list of things I've thought of are: 1) error, and fail translation 2) warn, and don't copy the XML: property 3) warn, and change the namespace to some specified warning namespace 4) do 3 silently 5) copy the element as-is. I don't like 5, because the element won't round-trip back to text format the same way. 3 or 4 sound fine to me, but I could live with 2 or even 1. - Text format properties that are not currently in the XML definition (such as X-, VND-, and new-but-iana-registered) are unlikely to ever have any interesting structure in XML. The best we can do is specify syntactic transformations that survive round trips. As a consequence, we might consider suggesting that ALL new properties SHOULD be defined in XML format going forward, with XML: being their native representation in the text format. - Do we specify what happens to \n in text format, when translated? Does it stay \n, or get translated to CRLF? What about wrapped lines? Do they get unwrapped? My preference would be unwrap and translate to \n to CRLF. -- Joe Hildebrand
- [VCARDDAV] How to encode X-Properties in XML? Simon Perreault
- Re: [VCARDDAV] How to encode X-Properties in XML? Renato Iannella
- Re: [VCARDDAV] How to encode X-Properties in XML? Cyrus Daboo
- Re: [VCARDDAV] How to encode X-Properties in XML? Simon Perreault
- Re: [VCARDDAV] How to encode X-Properties in XML? Cyrus Daboo
- Re: [VCARDDAV] How to encode X-Properties in XML? Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [VCARDDAV] How to encode X-Properties in XML? Simon Perreault
- Re: [VCARDDAV] How to encode X-Properties in XML? Joe Hildebrand
- Re: [VCARDDAV] How to encode X-Properties in XML? Filip Navara
- Re: [VCARDDAV] How to encode X-Properties in XML? Simon Perreault
- Re: [VCARDDAV] How to encode X-Properties in XML? Joe Hildebrand
- Re: [VCARDDAV] How to encode X-Properties in XML? Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [VCARDDAV] How to encode X-Properties in XML? Joe Hildebrand
- Re: [VCARDDAV] How to encode X-Properties in XML? Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [VCARDDAV] How to encode X-Properties in XML? Julian Reschke
- Re: [VCARDDAV] How to encode X-Properties in XML? Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [VCARDDAV] How to encode X-Properties in XML? Joe Hildebrand
- Re: [VCARDDAV] How to encode X-Properties in XML? Cyrus Daboo