Re: [VCARDDAV] use case for multiple affiliations
Marc Blanchet <marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca> Wed, 29 July 2009 12:56 UTC
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Subject: Re: [VCARDDAV] use case for multiple affiliations
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might want to think about doing this construct in XML. Marc. Markus Lorenz a écrit : > Simon Perreault schrieb: >> Markus Lorenz wrote: >>> Simon Perreault schrieb: >>> Yes, I could use X-groups to group these information together. But I >>> have no chance to determine automatically, if this group of >>> information belongs to home or work. The user has to guess it from >>> the context. If I had an application showing different icons for work >>> and home, it would not be able to decide which icon would be the >>> right one for X-xyzboard. For the application this could also be a >>> summer residence. >> So work and home should be tags, not groups, right? >> > > What's important for me is this: > > I think it's reasonable to have the possibility to group information > together. There is much data in a vcard that belongs together, because > it belongs to the same place. In our previous examples we had different > work places, summer residence, and semester address. There can be one > (or more) property value to each of these place for ADR, LABEL, TEL, > EMAIL, IMPP, TZ, GEO, TITLE, ROLE, LOGO, ORG, RELATED, NOTE, SOUND, URL, > KEY. Maybe others. > > We can indicate that these values belong together by using groups. But I > can see no possibility to indicate the type of a group. If I want to > contact a person I'm working with to talk about some work stuff, I > probably won't want to call this person at home or on vacation. I think > this is a common use case! But I would have to guess from the given > values of a group what kind of address or phone number it is. > > I would like to indicate the type of information. We had this feature in > vcard 3 with "TYPE=work" for ADR, LABEL, and TEL. I'm not yet sure how > to do this. But just now I had the idea, to associate the type of > information not to a property but to a group. I don't know how to do > this by now, because I see no way to associate information to a group > with the current specification. Creating a new property seems ugly, > because all current properties can be used without any group and don't > by force loose their meaning. If we created a new property to show the > type of a group, (e.g. "x-my-group.GROUPTYPE:work") this property would > be meaningless without the group. So this wouldn't suit the current > specification. > > Anyhow, I would love to associate the type of data with a group. I think > it's useful, because if you have grouped information then it can only be > of one type. This type is the reason why you created the group in the > first place. > > If you agree with this idea: > > - We would have to find a way to add it to the vcard specification > without messing it up. > > - We would also have to think about if indicating the type of > information (home/work) should force someone to use a group even if > this group would then contain only one property. > > - Maybe "home" and "work" aren't the only types a group of > information can have. So maybe we should think of some more > predefined types. > > - For extensibility we should allow "x-"-types. > > - And if we already indicate the type of information, maybe we can > also allow a descriptive text. Multiple private addresses don't > have a ORG-property which describes the address. This could be > helpful distinguish between summer residence and home, which are > both private addresses. > > I would like to hear other opinions on this. > > Regards, > > > Markus > > > _______________________________________________ > VCARDDAV mailing list > VCARDDAV@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vcarddav -- ========= IPv6 book: Migrating to IPv6, Wiley. http://www.ipv6book.ca Stun/Turn server for VoIP NAT-FW traversal: http://numb.viagenie.ca DTN news service: http://reeves.viagenie.ca
- [VCARDDAV] use case for multiple affiliations Marc Blanchet
- Re: [VCARDDAV] use case for multiple affiliations Markus Lorenz
- Re: [VCARDDAV] use case for multiple affiliations Kepeng Li
- Re: [VCARDDAV] use case for multiple affiliations Simon Perreault
- Re: [VCARDDAV] use case for multiple affiliations Cyrus Daboo
- Re: [VCARDDAV] use case for multiple affiliations Simon Perreault
- Re: [VCARDDAV] use case for multiple affiliations Cyrus Daboo
- Re: [VCARDDAV] use case for multiple affiliations Simon Perreault
- Re: [VCARDDAV] use case for multiple affiliations Cyrus Daboo
- Re: [VCARDDAV] use case for multiple affiliations Markus Lorenz
- Re: [VCARDDAV] use case for multiple affiliations Simon Perreault
- Re: [VCARDDAV] use case for multiple affiliations Markus Lorenz
- Re: [VCARDDAV] use case for multiple affiliations Marc Blanchet