Re: [VCARDDAV] phonetic-given-name and phonetic-family-name

[Barry Leiba <[e-mail]>]

> The UI use case of these is sorting by given or family name
> explicitly, beyond a simple "canonical" sort which the 'sort-as'
> parameter would suffice.

Here's where you're losing me.  We had talked about properties like
"soundex", or some other sort of phonetic-name thing.  But the idea
was never to *sort* on these things -- they'd be for human
consumption, or perhaps for a speech synthesizer.  If one's name were
"Hélène", for instance, why on *Earth* would one want to *sort* that
under something other than "H"?

> The options of sort by given name (first name) or sort by family name
> (last name) are provided which sort according to phonetic-given-name
> if any otherwise given-name, and phonetic-family-name if any otherwise
> family-name, respectively. This feature is apparently particularly
> useful in Japanese.

I can't parse this, and I don't understand what you're trying to get
at.  But in general, I get the idea that users of non-English scripts,
such as Japanese or Chinese, would want to have a way to sort the
names along with similar-sounding English names.  But that's already
handled with the sort-as stuff.

To be clear: I think some sort of "this is how the name is pronounced"
fields are useful, and I'd support developing an extension for that.
I just don't see how it has anything to do with sorting.

Barry