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Re: [VCARDDAV] KIND in draft 15

Cyrus Daboo <cyrus@daboo.name> Tue, 21 December 2010 02:50 UTC

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Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 21:52:23 -0500
From: Cyrus Daboo <cyrus@daboo.name>
To: Kevin Marks <kevinmarks@gmail.com>, Helge Hess <helge.hess@opengroupware.org>
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Subject: Re: [VCARDDAV] KIND in draft 15
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Hi Kevin,

--On December 20, 2010 6:31:09 PM -0800 Kevin Marks <kevinmarks@gmail.com> 
wrote:

> The case for group has not been made.
>

Here is the deal: simply relying on group names in CATEGORIES won't work. 
If you have a set of vCards and have a "Family" group, and I have a set of 
vCards and my own "Family" group, well those two groups absolutely have to 
be distinct, particularly when address books/vcards start to be shared. 
i.e. if I were to send you my vCard with CATEGORIES containing "Family" 
your certainly wouldn't want me to suddenly appear in your Family group.

So a requirement is that there be a group "entity" of some kind with a 
unique identifier (not its name) that can uniquely identify its membership. 
Well that is a vCard with KIND:group.

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Cyrus Daboo

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