[VCARDDAV] progressing the 'device' KIND

Michael Angstadt <mike.angstadt@gmail.com> Sun, 09 September 2012 22:54 UTC

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From: Michael Angstadt <mike.angstadt@gmail.com>
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Subject: [VCARDDAV] progressing the 'device' KIND
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> Thanks for your comments, Michael.  I'm looking at page 3, but I don't
> know to what "organization" you are referring.  We are not calling out
> organization as a KIND value here, nor are we calling out "organization"
> as a property.  On page 4 we refer to ORG as a potential device vCard
> property.

Hi Joe.  I was referring to the following sentence in section 1:

 "During its work on the base vCard4 specification, the VCARDDAV Working
Group defined values of "individual", "organization", "group", and
"location" for the KIND property."

The string "organization" is not a valid value for the KIND property.
 However, the string "org" *is* a valid value (see RFC 6350 p25).  The sentence
should read as follows:

"During its work on the base vCard4 specification, the VCARDDAV Working
Group defined values of "individual", "org", "group", and "location" for
the KIND property."

Thanks,
Mike

On Sunday, September 9, 2012, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:

> On 9/9/12 2:41 PM, Michael Angstadt wrote:
> > Peter,
> >
> > In section 1 on page 3, the correct KIND value for an organization is
> > "org", not "organization" (see RFC 6350 p25).
>
> Thanks for your comments, Michael.  I'm looking at page 3, but I don't
> know to what "organization" you are referring.  We are not calling out
> organization as a KIND value here, nor are we calling out "organization"
> as a property.  On page 4 we refer to ORG as a potential device vCard
> property.
>
> >
> > Also, maybe it would be beneficial to include one or two RELATED
> > properties in the vCard example on page 6, since page 4 emphasizes the
> > importance of using this property.
>
> Thanks for the suggestion.  I'll talk it over with Gonzalo and Peter.
> This is likely a good thing to show.
>
> Joe
>
> >
> > Regards,
> > -Mike
> > http://code.google.com/p/ez-vcard
> > http://mikeangstadt.name/mike-angstadt.vcf
> >
> > On Friday, September 7, 2012, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> >
> > We've had discussion here about draft-salgueiro-vcarddav-kind-device,
> > which specifies a vCard KIND of 'device' (split out from the
> > 'application' KIND last year). Pete Resnick, the responsible AD for
> > the VCCARDAV WG, has agreed to AD-sponsor this document, so it will
> > not be progressing as a WG item. However, we last discussed it on this
> > list back in April, so feedback on version -02 would be helpful to
> > make sure that it's in good shape. Therefore, consider this an
> > informal last call for comments from the vCard community. If you could
> > send your feedback in the next two weeks (before September 21st) that
> > would be great.
> >
> > The spec can be found here:
> >
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-salgueiro-vcarddav-kind-device/
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Peter
> >
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