Re: [VCARDDAV] How to encode X-Properties in XML?
Joe Hildebrand <joe.hildebrand@webex.com> Tue, 30 March 2010 21:48 UTC
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Subject: Re: [VCARDDAV] How to encode X-Properties in XML?
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On 3/30/10 2:12 PM, "Peter Saint-Andre" <stpeter@stpeter.im> wrote: >>> - On input, the content of the XML: property MUST be interpreted as a >>> single XML element. > > Qualified by what namespace? My sense of the discussion so far is that > the single XML element contained in the "XML:" property MUST have some > namespace. I'm just asking "or else what?" What are the consequences of being non-conformant, particularly when it can cause loss of information on round-trip. >> No. I'm suggesting that we put these extensions in a new namespace, > > "DAV:" perhaps? ;-) Not funny in several directions at once. Nicely done. (Note to those who don't get the important one of the jokes, DAV: is a prefix, not a namespace.) >> preferably a new namespace per spec that adds 1+ properties. > > Why are we defining this bucket in the first place? It seems to me that > we want to be encouraging people to use the extensibility they have with > XML, not redefine the "urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:vcard-4.0" namespace by > creating new elements in that namespace outside the schema we've defined. Agree that we should be using XML for extensibility, and agree that we don't want those elements to go into urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:vcard-4.0. For example, draft-daboo-vcard-service-type might use urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:vcard:service-type. If that I-D defined multiple properties, they could all use that namespace URI. The ...vcard:service-type namespace then becomes the bucket. -- Joe Hildebrand
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- Re: [VCARDDAV] How to encode X-Properties in XML? Simon Perreault
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- Re: [VCARDDAV] How to encode X-Properties in XML? Peter Saint-Andre
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- Re: [VCARDDAV] How to encode X-Properties in XML? Joe Hildebrand
- Re: [VCARDDAV] How to encode X-Properties in XML? Filip Navara
- Re: [VCARDDAV] How to encode X-Properties in XML? Simon Perreault
- Re: [VCARDDAV] How to encode X-Properties in XML? Joe Hildebrand
- Re: [VCARDDAV] How to encode X-Properties in XML? Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [VCARDDAV] How to encode X-Properties in XML? Joe Hildebrand
- Re: [VCARDDAV] How to encode X-Properties in XML? Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [VCARDDAV] How to encode X-Properties in XML? Julian Reschke
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