[VCARDDAV] vcarddav-birth-death-extensions update
Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> Thu, 03 November 2011 21:19 UTC
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Subject: [VCARDDAV] vcarddav-birth-death-extensions update
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The IESG has discussed draft-ietf-vcarddav-birth-death-extensions-01, and had a number of comments on it, most of which amount to asking the question of what vCards are for, why we'd want to add all sorts of properties that seem to have little bearing on what people would put into address books, and whether we might eventually start adding eye colour, shoe size, and favourite movie. And, yes, we eventually might, so that needs to be said somewhere, perhaps in a revision of RFC 6350. But for now, there are a few main points that I want to take up before we let birth-death-extensions get published. To that end, I'm ready to post an -02 version, which you can currently view here: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/vcarddav/trac/browser/draft-ietf-vcarddav-birth-death-extensions-02.txt There are three things that this version changes: 1. It resolves Sean's DISCUSS point, by putting the normative language in from the ABNF for DEATHDATE into the "Description" section of the registration template. I agree with him that this is a good idea. 2. It addresses a suggestion by Adrian to have a way of specifying that the vCard's subject is known to be dead, without specifying the date or place of death (perhaps because they are unknown). See the "description" field for DEATHDATE, and please comment on whether you think that is suitable. (Note that I am NOT addressing Adrian's further comment about explicitly noting that the subject is NOT dead (which starts to sound Monty-Python-esque), or that it is not known whether or not the subject is dead. I think we can easily overcomplicate things beyond the point of usefulness, and there's not been any stated demand for that.) 3. It addresses a comment by Dan that it might be useful to allow specification of the place of birth or death by, say, city or country. I agree that this would be a good idea, and have proposed a mechanism for that in the description fields of BIRTHPLACE and DEATHPLACE: if the value is text AND the text value contains semicolons, it is to be interpreted as a structured field as described for the ADR property. I think this is a reasonable way to do this, but I think the WG needs to be OK with this in order for us to go forward with it. Please review this and comment. If we're all OK with these three changes, then Peter can go ahead with approving the -02 version. Barry
- [VCARDDAV] vcarddav-birth-death-extensions update Barry Leiba
- Re: [VCARDDAV] vcarddav-birth-death-extensions up… Tantek Çelik
- Re: [VCARDDAV] vcarddav-birth-death-extensions up… Simon Perreault
- Re: [VCARDDAV] vcarddav-birth-death-extensions up… Cyrus Daboo
- Re: [VCARDDAV] vcarddav-birth-death-extensions up… Barry Leiba
- Re: [VCARDDAV] vcarddav-birth-death-extensions up… Barry Leiba
- Re: [VCARDDAV] vcarddav-birth-death-extensions up… Simon Perreault
- Re: [VCARDDAV] vcarddav-birth-death-extensions up… Cyrus Daboo
- Re: [VCARDDAV] vcarddav-birth-death-extensions up… Barry Leiba
- Re: [VCARDDAV] vcarddav-birth-death-extensions up… Cyrus Daboo
- Re: [VCARDDAV] vcarddav-birth-death-extensions up… Barry Leiba
- Re: [VCARDDAV] vcarddav-birth-death-extensions up… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [VCARDDAV] vcarddav-birth-death-extensions up… Barry Leiba
- Re: [VCARDDAV] vcarddav-birth-death-extensions up… Peter Saint-Andre